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#1 TOASTRONAUT

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Posted 15 August 2022 - 06:20 PM

respected Astro wizards, 

Here’s my story. Sometime in 2018, I decided to go big and bought the AP Mach 1. For reasons related to poor health, I’ve never really managed to take out the mount. Since then, I’ve realized that the mount may be a beaut but it is not portable nor does it fit any “low cost” tripod. I have to supplement this with adapters from AP, also at great cost. Now, AP’s products are fantastic works of engineering and they do not skimp on quality. 

Question : is my Mach 1 worth keeping or should I sell this and get the CGEM II EQ mount and tripod? I used to be an astrophotographer but sadly, not any more. 
Thanks vey much. 

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Posted 15 August 2022 - 06:26 PM

Mach 1 (28 lb) should be lighter than CGEM II EQ (40 lb). Also, with an ADATRI in can be used on simple tripods (I have done it in the past).



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Posted 15 August 2022 - 07:01 PM

Keep it!


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Posted 15 August 2022 - 07:01 PM

I think that has alot to do with what your putting on the mount. Because your no longer imaging there are a bunch of lesser mounts that MAY be suitable and more convenient.  Though it is a very nice mount.


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Posted 15 August 2022 - 07:22 PM

respected Astro wizards, 

Here’s my story. Sometime in 2018, I decided to go big and bought the AP Mach 1. For reasons related to poor health, I’ve never really managed to take out the mount. Since then, I’ve realized that the mount may be a beaut but it is not portable nor does it fit any “low cost” tripod. I have to supplement this with adapters from AP, also at great cost. Now, AP’s products are fantastic works of engineering and they do not skimp on quality. 

Question : is my Mach 1 worth keeping or should I sell this and get the CGEM II EQ mount and tripod? I used to be an astrophotographer but sadly, not any more. 
Thanks vey much. 

Lathif 

Personally, I think you'd regret selling the Mach1 even if you're not doing astrophotography. If you decide to sell, I'm sure  someone else will enjoy your Mach1 because I really love mine.

 

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Posted 15 August 2022 - 07:42 PM

I would keep the mount. Absolutely. Get a Berlebach Planet, it works beautifully with these mounts.
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Posted 15 August 2022 - 07:43 PM

If you have a safe place to leave it setup cover it with a Telegizmo cover and it will always be ready. I bought mine in 2018 as well and it’s a beautiful mount. I leave mine under cover and just remove the telescope. It’s ready to use in minutes.

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Posted 15 August 2022 - 07:51 PM

For sure keep the Mach 1. My Mach2GTO mount spends most of its time on a permanent pier, but when I do go portable I use an iOptron tri-pier with the AP ADATRI adapter. 

 

 

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Posted 16 August 2022 - 02:36 PM

The Losmandy LW tripod is a good match for the Mach-1 too. Look for a used one and save even more money.

 

What OTA('s) are you putting on the Mach-1?

 

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Posted 16 August 2022 - 05:13 PM

respected Astro wizards, 

Here’s my story. Sometime in 2018, I decided to go big and bought the AP Mach 1. For reasons related to poor health, I’ve never really managed to take out the mount. Since then, I’ve realized that the mount may be a beaut but it is not portable nor does it fit any “low cost” tripod. I have to supplement this with adapters from AP, also at great cost. Now, AP’s products are fantastic works of engineering and they do not skimp on quality. 

Question : is my Mach 1 worth keeping or should I sell this and get the CGEM II EQ mount and tripod? I used to be an astrophotographer but sadly, not any more. 
Thanks vey much. 

Lathif 

Maybe you don't need a equatorial mount anymore if you're only observing. You might consider a Alt-Az mount that's lighter weight. Here's a photo of a side by side view of the Rowan Astronomy AZ100 Alt-Az mount and a Mach1 on Berlebach Planet tripods.  The AZ100 setup is 10lbs. lighter weight (with counter weights) than the Mach1 and a faster setup time. Without counter weights it's even less weight. Nexus Pro DSC is the object database for the AZ100 and Rowan is coming out shortly with a driven AZ100 mount to track the sky.

 

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Posted 17 August 2022 - 10:56 AM

I would never part with any AP mount. Anything else in my view is a downgrade.


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Posted 18 August 2022 - 02:14 PM

Unless I get Mach-2 or AP-1100/AE, I won't part with my Mach-1.

But for portable observing not AP'ing or short focal length AP, I definitely go with RST-135. It's just 3.5kg and no CW makes it huge difference in portability. It can handle C11 w/o CW if tripod is stable. What else you can possibly want more for portable mount? Now there are more choices as well for cheaper price.


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Posted 18 August 2022 - 09:34 PM

Remember with a Mach1 you can loosen the axis then, remove 4 bolts and the mount comes apart. The two parts are both lightweight and extremely portable. You can’t do that with a Mach2. You will regret ever selling your Mach1. The tripod you choose to use like an Avalon T-Pod is also light weight and very portable as well. You will regret ever selling your Mach1. Did I already say that? 😎

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Posted 21 August 2022 - 08:25 PM

Thank you, everyone! I’ve decided to keep the Mach 1. Currently, it’s married to. Televue 4” astrograph. I’ve decided to continue my astrophotography and get aa cover for the equipment (Telegizmo cover, some suggested). For the more mobile very dark sky festivals we have here in Canada, I am thinking of the iOptron CEM40 NUC with tripod. That’s a light mount, I believe, she can ride in my the trunk of my small car, eh?

Oh and where did you get those nifty wheels for the tripod, Christopher Erickson??


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Posted 22 August 2022 - 06:38 AM

Thank you, everyone! I’ve decided to keep the Mach 1. Currently, it’s married to. Televue 4” astrograph. I’ve decided to continue my astrophotography and get aa cover for the equipment (Telegizmo cover, some suggested). For the more mobile very dark sky festivals we have here in Canada, I am thinking of the iOptron CEM40 NUC with tripod. That’s a light mount, I believe, she can ride in my the trunk of my small car, eh?

Oh and where did you get those nifty wheels for the tripod, Christopher Erickson??

On the Telegizmo cover be sure and get the 365 version.  I have 2 of these and they are wonderful.   Work in all weather and impervious to rain/sun/snow.  Here is my setup in my back yard.

 

Phoenix Heat Observatory with 2 telescope setups covered

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Posted 22 August 2022 - 02:04 PM

Thank you, everyone! I’ve decided to keep the Mach 1

For the more mobile very dark sky festivals we have here in Canada, I am thinking of the iOptron CEM40 NUC with tripod.

Good call. 

The Mach1 isn't THAT heavy. I have a Pelican case for mine when I go mobile.  The mount breaks into two pieces if you remove 2-3 bolts to make it even lighter.

 

Total: 28 lb. (12.7 kg),  R.A. axis/polar fork: 16.5 lb. (7.5 kg),  Dec. axis: 11.5 lb. (5.2 kg) , probably <40 pounds in a Pelican case.




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