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#51 Petsyk Alexey

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Posted 06 April 2023 - 07:09 AM

The collection has grown. Found monocular LOMO Captain. It seems that's what it's called. I'm not exactly sure about the settings. If the sources are unanimous in the lens diameter, 40mm, then there are discrepancies with the magnification. I met an indication of 12x, 14x and even 16x. Scheme - meniscus Gregory. Focusing by rotating the meniscus. No case or instructions. The case is rubberized, comfortable. Rarely seen on sale, about once a year. The price was just under $20, including shipping.

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Posted 06 April 2023 - 07:54 AM

Found a description on the web Advantages: direct image without wrapping system, low weight, small size, large magnification Specifications: Magnification, multiple of 14 Aperture, mm 40 Focal length, mm 390 Relative hole, 9.75 Anti-reflective coating - multilayer dielectric Weight, gr 326 Diameter, mm 54 Length, mm 187.3



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Posted 06 April 2023 - 07:58 AM

Drool worthy stuff!!!

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Posted 06 April 2023 - 08:00 AM

Yes. I like that little blue scope.



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Posted 06 April 2023 - 08:05 AM

No, he's black. This is a phone error when shooting. Daylight of the blue sky. )))



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Posted 06 April 2023 - 08:07 AM

OK, I like the little black scope.  :)

Gregory-Maksutov types seem so efficient in design!


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Posted 06 April 2023 - 05:11 PM

I have one of the little 70mm LOMO Mak-Cass with the blue star chart, and this LOMO Mak-Newt

 

 

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Posted 06 April 2023 - 06:06 PM

wow.  what a visual feast of a thread.  thank you for sharing this alexey!



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Posted 06 April 2023 - 08:15 PM

Ah hah! I see on the far right of the shelf in post #4, you have something very similar to this. I will post more information tomorrow. 

 

 

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Posted 06 April 2023 - 11:31 PM

Ah hah! I see on the far right of the shelf in post #4, you have something very similar to this. I will post more information tomorrow. 

On the shelf on the left, black, this is the world's first mass-produced meniscus telescope, produced in 1945 in a small series. A detailed photo and description of this telescope is given in my article, a link to which is given in message No. 9 of this topic. Or did you mean some other telescope?


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Posted 07 April 2023 - 12:03 AM

@trainsktg I had one of those once, an MTO 1000mm f/10 beast, rather battered, complete with the wooden box and filters.

 

 

I ended up disassembling it completely to:

 

- clean the optics (they were filthy). Interestingly the corrector was a doublet - and a truly massive hunk of glass for a 4" - and uncoated;

 

- relax the spring passing the primary mirror in its cell, which eliminated the bad trefoil aberration it showed at first;

 

- remove the focus stop screw to increase backfocus, so it could be used visually, and

 

- restore the paintwork. 

 

Optically it seemed OK for sharpness but overall transmission and contrast were poor, compared to more modern optics.


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Posted 07 April 2023 - 05:35 AM

The one I pictured above is the MTO 8/500 Maksutov camera lens, that someone in the past had made a very functional 90 diagonal / binocular eyepiece combination for. I estimate it to be about 17-18 power overall. It's pretty useless as an astronomical device; even the Moon is pretty underwhelming in it because the power is so low, but it does really, really well as a terrestrial spotter. 

 

The link here has some  very good information, including  a copy of a review from 1964 Modern Photography. https://mikeeckman.c...mm-mirror-lens/

 

 

 

 

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Posted 07 April 2023 - 05:39 AM

On the shelf on the left, black, this is the world's first mass-produced meniscus telescope, produced in 1945 in a small series. A detailed photo and description of this telescope is given in my article, a link to which is given in message No. 9 of this topic. Or did you mean some other telescope?

Actually I was referring to the tan one on the far right, but there are several on your self that look similar, with that larger body towards the back. Regardless, all VERY interesting little scopes :) 



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Posted 12 April 2023 - 03:26 AM

Intes Micro Alter M 603_02red.JPG

 

Not sure if this might count as a Russian school telescope. Owned the Intes Micro Alter M 603 Mak-Cass 150/1500mm back in 2015. Built like a tank I found it cumbersome to carry around. I also remember the optics to be rather mediocre in terms of image sharpness and contrast when compared to my 3 1/2" Questar. Sold the Intes a year later. Questar still with me.

 

 


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Posted 12 April 2023 - 03:56 AM

Interesting to see you have one with the original fork and base - is the RA drive still functional ? NB I have a 6” Mk66 deluxe which I like a lot, heavy but optically perfect, and I mount it on a M2C altaz mount with encoders - much lighter. https://www.cloudyni...5-m2c-encoders/

 

Around 12-15 years ago I had a chance to try a couple of the f/10 Russian 6”-7” and wasn’t terribly impressed - tho we had an M715 deluxe here that was excellent, and my buddy here traded that for an MK91 which is a really excellent scope. He also briefly had a M1008 which compared well against the MK91, but it was too heavy for him so he sold the 10” and kept the MK91.
 

We did a lot of side by comparisons to rank all the 7-10” scopes we could get our hands on - SCTs, Mewlons, Vixens and others.


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Posted 12 April 2023 - 04:19 AM

Intes MK67red.jpg

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Not sure these were termed "school telescopes" but russian made they are. Bought my Intes MK-67 150/1800mm Maksutov and the improved MK-66 a quarter century ago. I had then traveled to Moscow to visit the Intes works. What a trip this was. Saw Red Square and Lenins body on public display in a giant tomb. Both Intes Maks found a new home ten years ago.

 

 


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Posted 12 April 2023 - 04:21 AM

Ha no they always were way outside a school budget !!!

 

Even here a “school telescope” usually means a little 75mm f/10 Newtonian


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Posted 12 April 2023 - 11:23 AM

Intes was not a school telescope. This is a telescope for amateur astronomers and their release was intended to fill the shortage of amateur telescopes that existed in the USSR.



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Posted 12 April 2023 - 02:13 PM

Well, I'm extremely lucky to own almost all of the Lomo mak telescopes and I'm never going to sell them :-) Only one I never acquired is the Astele 203 mak on the fork mount.

 

Here is a photo of my Astele 150 and 180 on their fork mounts.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 17 April 2023 - 04:50 AM

I want to tell you about another gem of my collection. Astronomical binocular BAS 30x90. It was produced at the Zagorsk Optical and Mechanical Plant in the late 90s and early 2000s.

 

The device is completely made of metal, the eyepieces have a break in the optical axis of 45 degrees and individual diopter adjustment. The interpupillary distance can be adjusted over a fairly wide range. There is also a version of binoculars without a break in the optical axes, for terrestrial observations. It is called TB 30x90. There are no such binoculars in my collection, but according to user reviews, the image is not of very high quality.

 

The binocular is very heavy, so hand-held observations, even with an emphasis, are not possible. It must be mounted on a tripod - for this I made a fork mount. The binocular mounted on it is in an indifferent balance in any position, although for this it was necessary to equip the mount with counterweights.
http://www.old.astro...2&sub=2&gid=105

 

The device is very rare, I have never seen it on the secondary market. I bought my copy from a friend and partly by accident. And in those days when the binocular was sold in the store, I could not afford its price - then it cost about 800 US dollars, with my salary of 200 dollars a month. )))

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Posted 17 April 2023 - 04:54 AM

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Posted 17 April 2023 - 04:58 AM

binocular instructions

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Posted 17 April 2023 - 05:00 AM

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Posted 17 April 2023 - 05:02 AM

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Posted 17 April 2023 - 05:04 AM

Adjustment instructions. Available only in Russian.

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