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#1 Diana N

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Posted 15 March 2023 - 01:26 PM

For those of you wanting to discuss this eclipse now, here is the thread to do it!  per the moderators this is the ONLY thread about this eclipse which will be allowed for now, and will be moved in due course to its own forum at a later date (when other threads will also be permitted).

 

So, who is planning to go?  I'm already booked with Sky & Telescope (eclipse viewing followed by a Nile cruise on the HS Hamees, and a three-day post-cruise extension in Cairo).  This would be a good place for people to list other tour companies that specialize in total solar eclipses that they can recommend.  Given the extremely long length of this eclipse together with its path (totality passes over Luxor, Egypt) I think early planning is going to be essential if you want to enjoy this one!


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Posted 15 March 2023 - 01:40 PM

Planning to attend as well and will organize a group to go from Cyprus to Egypt. At some point in the next year or two, I must get a mirrorless Canon camera and choose which software to use (SETnC probably). My AM5 is standing by, and I will probably take my 80mm f7 with me.

 

Additionally, a couple of GoPro cameras to get wide field videos and my SolarQuest mount with another small refractor for some bystanders. Goes without saying, I will be taking a backup laptop and backup camera. It should be entertaining, but the hardcore group has decided that we will issue strict instructions to our significant others to NOT interfere in any way with our shenanigans!

 

Sometime this year or early next year, I’ll decide on hotels, ask everyone to put down a deposit and go ahead with the bookings. All gear will be boxed, palletized and couriered straight to our hotel when the time comes.


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#3 Diana N

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Posted 15 March 2023 - 03:10 PM

Nice! 

 

I'll probably end up leaving most of my astronomy gear at home and just bring some eclipse glasses and some binoculars fitted with safe solar filters, because I'll definitely want to bring my good camera gear in my carryon bag (I shoot with the Olympus m4/3 system), but that will be mostly for the daytime tourist stuff.  I already know a zillion other people will be taking FAR better pictures of both the eclipse and the night sky than I will ever manage!  Maybe I'll find a way to to squeeze my Coronado PST into my carryon as well; I have an inexpensive tripod I could put into my checked bag, and if it went AWOL it would not be a great financial loss.

 

I REALLY hate the fact that in this post-911 world it's completely impossible to check a bag and be 100% sure things won't be pilfered from it. (Well, unless you are checking firearms - but that's not a trick I'd want to try on any international trip!)


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Posted 16 March 2023 - 03:03 AM

I would not be taking the PST if I were in your shoes. There is more beauty in observing an eclipse in WL IMHO - tried it with a partial eclipse and preferred WL to Ha. But, horses for courses and all that :) 

 

As for stuff being checked in, I wouldn't mind at all using my 20 kilogram allowance to take mount and stuff like that, but the risk of damage mostly, is too high. Hence, courier. I will consider it though, as I can get a hard luggage, use a ton of bubble wrap and secure everything snuggly inside. The AM5, tripod, spare camera, spare laptop and a few other trinkets, will actually not weight too much and I will be within my allowance, including clothes as well. Also, since I plan on taking my wife as well (I will arrange for a few days of touring as well), I will use some of her luggage allowance if I need to cool.gif

 

It's all too soon of course for planning, except accommodation. That, I will take care of in the next few months.


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Posted 16 March 2023 - 10:31 AM

I agree, I think my camera equipment, some binoculars fitted with solar filters, and eclipse glasses ought to be enough.  Right now I only have detachable filters for my Orion 10x50s; I might want to look into obtaining detachable filters for my smaller 8x42 or 8x25 Zeiss Victory binos; not only are they better optically, but they are lighter (especially the 8x25s) and could do double duty as birding binoculars during the day (and of course observing after dark).

 

I usually try to avoid checking luggage, but if I am bringing camera equipment I don't think checking a bag will be avoidable.  But I am not too worried about the luggage gorillas having their way with a bag full of clothes and nothing else.  Besides, this will be a longer trip in a hot place, so having enough clothes to not have to worry about constantly doing sink laundry will be nice.


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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:27 AM

Thanks for creating a space where us dummies can learn the ins & outs of planning for this.

 

On one hand, I'm in no way ready to commit in a practical way, but on the other (I'm told) this is one of the grand eclipses, it is in a historically important place,, with climate that makes it ideal, so it seems stupid to miss it.  My challenge is to learn enough to make a good decision before access to the whole thing sells out.

 

(Background:  I kick myself for not making an effort to see the 2017 eclipse, which we chose to only watch as a partial from our home.  We have signed up to see the 2024 eclipse, because of that regret, in Texas with Astro Trails (UK), because of their itinerary and references, and being terrified we'd screw it up on our own.  So I'd prefer to wait and see if I'm a "one and done" guy or become "hooked" before considering further trips, especially expensive ones to places Americans haven't always been welcome in recent years. But... since tours are already offered, one, at least, has already sold out, and Luxor only has a population of ~422K so I figure it has limited resources and waiting probably isn't a realistic option.)

 

Thanks for all the information and perspectives!


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#7 Diana N

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Posted 17 March 2023 - 08:41 AM

SporadicGazer, I don’t think waiting until after the 2024 eclipse is over will mean missing out on the 2027 eclipse. Many companies have not yet announced their eclipse tours for 2027, and even the one sold out Sky & Telescope tour probably has a waiting list (and with a trip this far out, it is a certainty that a few people who have signed up will be forced by circumstances to drop out). Astro Trails, Spears Travel, and probably MelitaTrips will also be offering tours for the 2027 eclipse, none of which you can currently book. What I would do is get myself on the mailing list for each of those companies as well as Sky & Telescope/Insight Cruises, so when they do have tours that open for booking, you can sign up if you decide you want to go.

 

Edited to add:  Many of these tour companies also offer non-eclipse astronomy tours as well!


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Posted 17 March 2023 - 11:31 AM

Thanks for creating a space where us dummies can learn the ins & outs of planning for this.

 

On one hand, I'm in no way ready to commit in a practical way, but on the other (I'm told) this is one of the grand eclipses, it is in a historically important place,, with climate that makes it ideal, so it seems stupid to miss it.  My challenge is to learn enough to make a good decision before access to the whole thing sells out.

 

(Background:  I kick myself for not making an effort to see the 2017 eclipse, which we chose to only watch as a partial from our home.  We have signed up to see the 2024 eclipse, because of that regret, in Texas with Astro Trails (UK), because of their itinerary and references, and being terrified we'd screw it up on our own.  So I'd prefer to wait and see if I'm a "one and done" guy or become "hooked" before considering further trips, especially expensive ones to places Americans haven't always been welcome in recent years. But... since tours are already offered, one, at least, has already sold out, and Luxor only has a population of ~422K so I figure it has limited resources and waiting probably isn't a realistic option.)

 

Thanks for all the information and perspectives!

You do not have to make a big financial commitment yet to reserve yourself a space on a 2027 tour. We are booked on an Astro Trails tour to Luxor in 2027, but it only cost us 50 pounds apiece to reserve a space now. Although they have detailed tours planned, they won't even have the prices until 2025 because they have to protect themselves (not knowing what inflation might do to prices over the next 4.5 years). So, since they don't yet have prices, they are not asking for large sums of money yet. But you can protect yourself by reserving a space now.

 

Brian McGee, the owner of Astro Trails, is very active on the Solar Eclipse Mailing List and he comes across as very knowledgeable about the travel difficulties of getting to various sites such as the isolated peninsula in Western Australia next month.

 

Something that new eclipse-chasers may not realize is that eclipses repeat after 18 years 10.3 days. The 0.3 days is important because it means that the path shifts one-third of the way around the globe -- the upcoming 2024 totality in North America is the repeat of the one that many of us saw in 2006 in the Sahara in Libya (best weather prospects and a longer duration) and in my case Turkey (an incredibly beautiful country).

 

In this 18-year cycle of eclipses we are just finishing the seven-year dry period of mostly short totalities: 2017 was 2m40s; 2019 was 4m33s in the South Pacific, but only 2m33s when it reached land in Chile; 2020 was 2m10s; 2021 was 1m54s; and 2023 next month will be only 1m16s.

 

But beginning in 2024 we get mostly longer durations of totality: 2024 will be 4m28s; yes 2026 is only 2m18s; but 2027 will be 6m23s; 2028 5m10s; and 2030 will be 3m44s. Then we start getting short totalities again in 2031 and 2033.

 

It is the luck of the draw that in the current saros cycles that we are having, that the two longest durations in an 18 year period are in consecutive years, in this case 2027 and 2028, although both of those are getting a little shorter each time they repeat. For example, 1991 was 6m53s, 2009 was 6m39s, and 2027 will be 6m23s.


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#9 Diana N

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Posted 17 March 2023 - 11:45 AM

You do not have to make a big financial commitment yet to reserve yourself a space on a 2027 tour. We are booked on an Astro Trails tour to Luxor in 2027, but it only cost us 50 pounds apiece to reserve a space now. Although they have detailed tours planned, they won't even have the prices until 2025 because they have to protect themselves (not knowing what inflation might do to prices over the next 4.5 years). So, since they don't yet have prices, they are not asking for large sums of money yet. But you can protect yourself by reserving a space now.

Yes!  The only caution I would give is that, if the trip is outside of the US, book travel insurance within 2 weeks of putting down that deposit in order to guarantee you get coverage for any pre-existing medical conditions (which is crucial).  It doesn't matter that the exact dates of the trip aren't set and you don't know the final trip cost, because once you have the policy the travel dates can be changed and the insured tour cost increased later (at an increased cost, of course).  Just put down rough dates and the cost of your deposit when you book the trip insurance.

 

If you are willing to lose the cost of the tour and airfare, you can get only travel medical insurance, which is substantially cheaper.  But DO make sure you have that!  Most people have health insurance which doesn't cover treatment outside the US or emergency medical evacuation outside the US (which you really want to have if you are visiting a developing country or will be in the middle of nowhere in a developed one).


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Posted 16 April 2023 - 11:40 AM

Has anyone used the company Sirius Travel to book an eclipse trip? Would appreciate any comments pro or con.



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Posted 17 April 2023 - 11:07 PM

Has anyone used the company Sirius Travel to book an eclipse trip? Would appreciate any comments pro or con.

No, I have not. But she is active in posting her tours and then any last minute vacancies on the Solar Eclipse Mailing List, and I haven't heard anything negative about her company. Over the years there have been a few companies that abandoned their customers abroad or whatever, and there were many posts about those bad experiences. So, a lack of negative posts is a positive thing.


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Posted 18 April 2023 - 02:03 PM

Alan,

Thanks for your info. I was trying to enroll in the 2027 program and for the last week or so I have not been able to contact anyone at the company via phone or email. I am inferring that they are all in Australia for the eclipse, or at least I hope so! 



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Posted 31 July 2023 - 04:54 PM

My home is in Texas and I'm looking forward to the 2024 eclipse. I also have accommodations booked for Luxor in 2027. Today the temperature here is 105F/40C outside. I rummaged around in my shop and found an infrared thermometer gun. Attached is the temperature taken of the road. 154F/67C.

 

From what I can tell the temperature today in Texas is typical for Egypt in August. The eclipse for Luxor is mid-day, straight overhead. Initially I was planning to bring my 60mm refractor and well used DSLR, but with these temps I think I'll abandon that idea. I can't imagine setting up with a tripod and hanging out for several hours in that type of sun. Most likely revert back to binoculars with a comfy chair. And beverages of course. I turn 70 the next day. smile.gif

 

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Posted 31 July 2023 - 08:37 PM

^^^No, thank you!!!^^^

 

EDIT:  (Those are up arrows, not pyramids...)


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Posted 01 August 2023 - 11:26 AM

 Most likely revert back to binoculars with a comfy chair. And beverages of course. I turn 70 the next day. smile.gif

 

Matt

 

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You have to admit that a total solar eclipse in such a historic location is one hell of a birthday present! grin.gif

 

^^^No, thank you!!!^^^

 

EDIT:  (Those are up arrows, not pyramids...)

Those are pyramids!  You know from attending NSP year after year that we must suffer for our hobby! lol.gif


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Posted 02 August 2023 - 09:33 PM


From what I can tell the temperature today in Texas is typical for Egypt in August. The eclipse for Luxor is mid-day, straight overhead. Initially I was planning to bring my 60mm refractor and well used DSLR, but with these temps I think I'll abandon that idea. I can't imagine setting up with a tripod and hanging out for several hours in that type of sun. Most likely revert back to binoculars with a comfy chair.

I doubt that anybody will be out in the Sun for several hours. Assuming that you are set up on the grounds of your Luxor hotel, with security patrolling the grounds, you can move back and forth between the airconditioned public rooms in the hotel and your equipment during the initial partial phases. I probably won't be outside fulltime until perhaps 12 minutes or so before totality. And, after totality, I'll probably only have a few brief glimpses of the partial phases. So probably about 12 minutes of the dwindling solar crescent, 6.5 minutes of totality, and probably back indoors a few minutes after totality.

 

I have been looking forward to 2027 in Luxor most of my life -- heat can be handled. Visiting the archaeological sites before and after eclipse day is more problematic, but hopefully we can view them shortly after sunrise.


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Posted 06 August 2023 - 07:38 AM

Yes, too hot in Egypt for that time of the year. Was all excited until I realized it was in July/Aug. Those are brain boiling temps at midday.



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Posted 09 August 2023 - 06:22 AM

Luxor schmuxor. I'll probably be in southern Spain for this one. Still decent 4 and a half minutes of cosmic bliss there.
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Posted 24 August 2023 - 11:25 AM

For those of you wanting to discuss this eclipse now, here is the thread to do it!  per the moderators this is the ONLY thread about this eclipse which will be allowed for now, and will be moved in due course to its own forum at a later date (when other threads will also be permitted).

 

So, who is planning to go?  I'm already booked with Sky & Telescope (eclipse viewing followed by a Nile cruise on the HS Hamees, and a three-day post-cruise extension in Cairo).  This would be a good place for people to list other tour companies that specialize in total solar eclipses that they can recommend.  Given the extremely long length of this eclipse together with its path (totality passes over Luxor, Egypt) I think early planning is going to be essential if you want to enjoy this one!

My lovely wife and I are also booked for the HS Hamees although we are just doing one day at Cairo/Giza before.

 

This will be our vacation of a lifetime although we are also really excited about being on the Discovery Princess next year.

 

But to get back to 2027- weather prospects are good and the Hamees will be mobile if needed so I feel pretty solid about Egypt.  Nothing is a sure thing but this seems prettier promising.


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Posted 15 October 2023 - 02:06 PM

Just a head's up regarding eclipse photography in Egypt.  It is a military dictatorship and the customs officials get rather "cranky" about bringing in professional looking camera gear including long lenses, big cameras, tripods, and microphones with "dead mouse" windscreens.  A few friends spent 4-5 hours in secondary inspection as the customs agents poured over their gear fearing espionage.  In the end their gear was confiscated and held with customs during their visit being finally returned for a significant fee as they boarded a flight home.

No clue whether this will still be an issue 3 years from now but probably worthwhile to have a conversation with the tour organization about what to bring/not bring in order to avoid unnecessary delays, confiscation, or whatever.  I really really want to tour Egypt, but want to do it in a way that produces minimal kerfuffle with Egyptian military customs agents. 


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Posted 20 February 2024 - 03:41 PM

I'm going to Texas in April, my 4th eclipse, but would like to start planning for Luxor in 2027. I have very low travel standards and not that much equiptment. I'm also cheap thrifty. The idea of spending $6-8,000 for a package seems silly when I can plan most excursions, flight, train, hotel, etc. myself. Of course, other than those expensive tours, hotels don't seem to be taking reservations that far in advance. Any suggestions on how to lock in some of this as an individual?



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Posted 21 February 2024 - 10:22 AM

Just a head's up regarding eclipse photography in Egypt.  It is a military dictatorship and the customs officials get rather "cranky" about bringing in professional looking camera gear including long lenses, big cameras, tripods, and microphones with "dead mouse" windscreens.  A few friends spent 4-5 hours in secondary inspection as the customs agents poured over their gear fearing espionage.  In the end their gear was confiscated and held with customs during their visit being finally returned for a significant fee as they boarded a flight home.

No clue whether this will still be an issue 3 years from now but probably worthwhile to have a conversation with the tour organization about what to bring/not bring in order to avoid unnecessary delays, confiscation, or whatever.  I really really want to tour Egypt, but want to do it in a way that produces minimal kerfuffle with Egyptian military customs agents. 

Just imagine the...fun?...when folks try to see the 2034 TSE.

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Posted 21 February 2024 - 10:41 AM

Just imagine the...fun?...when folks try to see the 2034 TSE.

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The path of totality of that eclipse crosses only totalitarian dictatorship countries or sea.

One can better go on 22 Jul 2028 to Australia: the path crosses Sydney CBD.

Or 25 Nov 2030, it crosses South Africa and parts of Australia.
 


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Posted 26 February 2024 - 06:29 PM

 

One can better go on 22 Jul 2028 to Australia: the path crosses Sydney CBD.

Or 25 Nov 2030, it crosses South Africa and parts of Australia.
 

I've already got both of those eclipses penciled in to my travel calendar.  But 2034 I'll likely skip, for obvious reasons!  And even though I have booked a tour for the 2027 eclipse, I'm ready (if not happy) to back out if things get too iffy-looking in that part of the world before the eclipse date.  I figure with any trip I'm never 100% committed to the trip until I actually set foot on the plane.


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Posted 27 February 2024 - 09:46 AM

Just imagine the...fun?...when folks try to see the 2034 TSE.

http://xjubier.free....gleMapFull.html

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Phil

Kuwait is probably a decent destination for the American tourist. A lot of the "fun" on that totality path is from an American point of view. Not a lot of friendly faces along that route. But Kuwait is an exception and, I'd guess, has pretty decent weather prospects.

 

I haven't looked at weather, but I have a cousin living (quite happily) in Ghana. I may see if he knows a boat captain. I've been telling him I'd come visit.

 

Of course, ten years is a long time.


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