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[edouard]

Hi Community, 

i am not saying this is a meteorite, and i am not trying to convence myself it is a meteorite, i just want to know what is it.

 

So this 14 stones, little less than 1 cm each, landed on my balcony 1st floor. It could be a child that throw stones, of course, it's more possible than a meteorite crashing in my tiny balcony...

 

The stones, some are magnetic and stick to a magnet, some are magnetic and will not stick to a magnet, and others don't show any magnet response.

 

In the pictures i can see some fusion crust, anyone can confirm this ? or it's something else? 

 

i can see in the pictures at least 2 different colors minerals like green (olivine?) and brownish (not sure what is it)

 

I see shiny flakes on the overall stones.

 

I have searched for hours now, could me magnetite or hematite, but all the stones would be magnetic. Not sure wich other magnetic stone, presenting signs like olivine and other brownish mineral could it be.

 

Any help will be appreciated. 

 

This is a serious post. It could be anything so please, be patient, and if you can help, help, and if you can't because you don't know or maybe you think you know but you don't know, don't help.

 

Pictures on the link ::

 

https://www.yogile.c...21t/share/?vsc=

[Sandy Swede]

I will not speculate as per your admonission, but wait for responses from those who can absolutely, positively identify your stones.

[lee14]

 It could be a child that throw stones, of course, it's more possible than a meteorite crashing in my tiny balcony...

https://www.yogile.c...21t/share/?vsc=

 

While it is sometimes possible to assert positive identification as a meteorite from an image, it is far more challenging to demonstrate that a specimen is not. Particularly when terrestrial stones and meteorites can share so many superficial similarities.

 

Therefore, in lieu of any actual physical evidence, I believe your above statement is a pretty clear case for Occam's Razor, and is likely correct.

 

Lee

[edouard]

of course it's impossible a meteorite crashed on my balcony.

 

now your occam's razor theory...

 

My balcony is in the 1st floor, 30 meters from the garden in front, nearest position.

 

the person would have had to throw this little stones all togheter, and landed in my balcony dispersed, now all this little stones where all within 1 cm each.  

 

now, i checked the stone that are in front of my house, they are not magnetic...

 

So a person brought a stone from his house, possibly something magnetic and decided to throw it on my balcony. and succeded in the first try.

 

Or maybe he had several stones in his house and try for several minutes let's say 10 minutes and succeded.

 

i know that the theory of a meteorite is ridiculous, what are the odds? right?

 

but the theory of someone throwing stones into my balcony, 1 st floor, in a country where people are educated and this is not a normality, you just don't see people throwing stuff where i live.

 

i just need someone who can check the stones and see with trained eye if i have to bring this stones to have a further look.

 

thanks for your help

[kgb]

I would imagine that if they were all part of a meteorite, that miraculously landed on your balcony without causing obvious damage, that they would all have a common origin. Since they have a common origin, I would imagine that all the mineral and metal content would be evenly distributed and that you'd likely see that they all have similar magnetic properties.

Edited by kgb, 24 May 2023 - 06:55 AM.

[lee14]

 

of course it's impossible a meteorite crashed on my balcony.

 

now your occam's razor theory...

 

My balcony is in the 1st floor, 30 meters from the garden in front, nearest position.

 

the person would have had to throw this little stones all togheter, and landed in my balcony dispersed, now all this little stones where all within 1 cm each.  

 

now, i checked the stone that are in front of my house, they are not magnetic...

 

So a person brought a stone from his house, possibly something magnetic and decided to throw it on my balcony. and succeded in the first try.

 

Or maybe he had several stones in his house and try for several minutes let's say 10 minutes and succeded.

 

i know that the theory of a meteorite is ridiculous, what are the odds? right?

 

but the theory of someone throwing stones into my balcony, 1 st floor, in a country where people are educated and this is not a normality, you just don't see people throwing stuff where i live.

 

i just need someone who can check the stones and see with trained eye if i have to bring this stones to have a further look.

 

thanks for your help

The statement that the stones on your balcony don't match the magnetic properties of the those in front of your house shows that the balcony stones did not likely come from the front of the house. Period. No other explanation can be inferred.

 

The supposition regarding the possibility that the stones were thrown onto your balcony being unlikely because "people are educated and this is not a normality", is quite literally without any merit whatsoever.

 

Again, requesting positive identification from pictures is simply not possible in this case. There is no definitive evidence either way. You yourself accept the probability that they are not meteorites, so the repeated requests for a judgement that they are, despite a lack of evidence, seems rather pointless

 

Lee.

[edouard]

alright, i contacted, le musée d'histoire naturelle i geneva, i have to bring 3 stones, they will analyse it. I will post results, it could take 1 week up to 2 months. 

[leonardovaller]

Those are too many to have landed all exactly on the same spot.

And if they all have different petrological characteristics, they cannot come from the same object.

 

Someone somehow put them there. Someone, somehow.

[edouard]

First of all, thanks for your time and your kindness! 

 

i agree with you all. I brought 3 stones for further analisis, to the musee d'histoire naturelle in geneva, they do it for free. it takes 1 week up to 2 month for the results.

 

I will post a new picture here. In the microscope they seems like different stones. But with the picture of my phone, they seem quit que same. 

 

The bigger stones are the one who are sticking to the magnet, the more little they get, the less response they have with the magnet.

 

I will post the results here, when i have them. 

 

https://pasteboard.co/ZyMaexYZBoZ5.jpg

Edited by edouard, 25 May 2023 - 08:01 AM.

[kgb]

So are you inviting us to just click that link before you have the results?

[edouard]

If you want to, it's just a picture of the stones without microscope, simple. 

[lee14]

So are you inviting us to just click that link before you have the results?

It's a far better quality image, but still neither proves nor disproves meteoritic origin. Again, the magnetic properties, or lack thereof, are not diagnostic. Magnets can facilitate a ground search, but since so many terrestrial industrial or natural specimens are attracted to one, magnetism itself is not definitive.

 

Using an external link due to CN's limitations on file size is common practice, don't fault the OP.

 

Lee

Edited by lee14, 25 May 2023 - 10:27 AM.

[xiando]

Hmm... many small rocks on 1st floor balcony... maybe a sketchy childhood friend up to his or her old pranks and seeing if "you wanna sneak out tonight?"

 

I suppose a meteor is ~~~~possible, but I'd think you'd have heard something and there'd be damage. Meteors don't usually drift down gently.

Edited by xiando, 25 May 2023 - 10:04 AM.

[edouard]

all this is a theory, of course, but i didnt found any impact spot and today i looked under the carpet and something is there, some damage to the floor. the impact is 1 cm deep and 2 cm wide.

 

 also i found another one under the chair, a spot where plastic has chip off.

 

the chair was outside and the little stones just under the chair. the impact spot under the carpet is 10 cm where the chair was and where i found the stones.

 

 

just saying, i am a complotist now jajaja . any way, results will show the truth, this is more like a novel right now. 

 

 

pictures :

 

https://pasteboard.co/wvozXFiUCvDU.jpg

https://pasteboard.co/2JhFEjb2TKn3.jpg