Strongly Considering an Apple Mac
Posted 15 November 2003 - 02:13 PM
Posted 15 November 2003 - 04:25 PM
I am using a PC Power and Cooling 450W Silencer. You would not think two or 3 HD's would tax that, but I have been wrong before.
Rusty, I nicknamed the Swiftech MCX462 CPU cooler the "Cape Canaveral" but you can tone them down with a rheostat if you cross-check CPU temp. I do not overclock so that was a kinda stoopid investment in heavy metal, on my part.
Posted 15 November 2003 - 09:42 PM
Actually I've run into a couple of instances where had the box been CLEANED every 8-10 years, it would still have been serviceable. (I got 3 cups of crud out of one mid-tower case)
Alex, the PCP&C 450 is the best in its power range, period. You have plenty of power for (only) three hard drives. The Swiftech MCX-462 has been supplemented by the -V, which has the outer rows of pins bent outward. Never used the original MCX-462 (used the MCX-370 several times - quiet and efficient). In addition to the Swiftechs and Vantec Aeroflows, the Thermalright SLK-800A and 947U and the Zalman CNPS-7000Cu are high on the list. Still, the Aeroflow works as well as the higher-priced HSFs.
See http://www.overclock...om/articles373/ for a chart.
Posted 15 November 2003 - 10:49 PM
The PPC&C seems pretty noisy.
Rusty and Bob, don't EVEN get let me get started on Dell. I am sure even Packard Bell knew how to build good equipment, but the worst consumer experience I ever had in my life was with a Dell 3800 Inspiron laptop. I can confidently say "never again"!
Posted 16 November 2003 - 10:07 PM
Well, that's odd about the Inspiron having problems - the Dell laptops (IMHO) are much better builds than their desktops and servers (which may not be saying much); I've only had a WinBook, Toshiba, and, currently, an HP.
The PCP&C 450 is a bit noisier than its competitors; I generally use Enermax or Zalman for the quieter running.
You might try a duct of 1" foam sheet extending out about 3" if you have the room, but for the performance and durability of that PS, the noise isn't too bad.
Posted 18 November 2003 - 12:44 AM
Thanks for all your info and ideas. I can hardly wait for my slimjim IDE cables -- no more rat's nest!
Posted 18 November 2003 - 12:51 AM
Posted 20 November 2003 - 05:51 AM
What more can I say?
Oh yeah, I love it.
Posted 20 November 2003 - 10:49 PM
Right click = ctrl+click (or use a three button mouse).
To clear history, cache; everything in Safari, Click on Safari then Reset Safari. You loose cookies too. To clear just History choose History; Clear History.
You can't right click choose properties and see how big a picture is. Bummer.
You can not cut and paste between user sessions under Panther. No universal or system clipboard.
Apple has scheduled in cron to purge temp files; like your cache, at 3AM in the morning. So from time to time he (the Apple rep) leaves his computer on all night from time to time to let cron work.
Thanks for letting me work on my memory! If I tell you guys I can come back and ask you when I forget.
Posted 21 November 2003 - 02:57 PM
Posted 21 November 2003 - 11:45 PM
So my Backup Fetish has been justified, and if I can stay awake, will actually break out the scopes tomorrow. And I have no idea what this has to do with this thread....
Posted 22 November 2003 - 12:53 AM
Posted 22 November 2003 - 01:36 PM
Boy, I hate those iMac keyboards ...
Do you mean the current ones? I agree about the early ones, but the current extended keyboard has a nice feel, imo.
The Apple optical mouse is cool looking, but is missing 3 buttons and a scroll wheel for me to be happy with it.
Posted 22 November 2003 - 02:45 PM
I have a fondness for the old IBM Selectronic keyboards. At work I have saved an extremely old Zenith keyboard that I think dates back to 286 days and is similar to an old IBM keyboard. Feels great.
Have not tried any Apple keyboards lately except for this laptop. Which is OK, for a laptop keyboard.
Posted 23 November 2003 - 02:13 AM
Ron, I loved those Selectrics too and wish I had mine. I would pay a fortune for a really nice PC keyboard. DataDesk still makes keyboards with a great touch, but they eliminate a lot of utility keys to conserve cost and space. DataDesks are LOUD enough you will get complaints from others in the area, too.
Ron, if you have a keyboard that dates back to 286 days, I had no idea how short the years were back then
Posted 23 November 2003 - 03:26 PM
I miss Minnesota for that reason; we had four easily defined seasons, while here they blend together. Sometimes it's easier to define time passage as compared to a baseline time. Eg. when we moved to AZ, graduated from college etc.
Alex; do you attach an external keyboard to your iMac to avoid the built in one?
Posted 23 November 2003 - 03:50 PM
Time is measured in events and the year starts on the first day of school; We got married, our son was born, we moved into our house, the crew I was working with collapsed the roof on the house and I fell two stories to the ground, thats how you determine what year it is. After as long (this way I don't give away my age) as I have associated with schools I have no clue about anything except the start of school, thanksgiving, christmas, easter graduation, a short breather and start all over again for seasons of the year. Saturdays Post-Dispatch had pictures of major events (Atom bomb, Kennedy assignation etc) I was in school for all but Pearl Harbor and the Atom bomb!. A long time ago was when I bought my first DEC PDP-11/45 running Unix V6 from Bell Labs or maybe the DEC VAX-11/780 running Unix V7
Posted 23 November 2003 - 04:41 PM
For some reason I was thinking Apple laptops. Which I guess you could argue have external keyboards but attached monitors.
VAX-11 at our school ran VMS or Unix and I seem to recall for us it was System IV but I get my numbers all mixed up. The 3B2 had an early version of UNIX and I get the two mixed up.
Posted 24 November 2003 - 08:25 AM
Posted 24 November 2003 - 09:22 AM
It also came with an ugly Fortran compiler that gave me a very bad taste for Fortran. It was not complient, kinda of an AT&T version, not unlike what Microsoft has done with Java, so not only did I have to learn Fortran in class, but AT&T's version too.
We really hammered that machine, I'm surprised it worked as well as it did. When crunching matrices you didn't want to go much over 10X10 or it started to choke.
You've got your kids' kids coming in now! Kinda like getting a second shot at them isn't it?
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I look at what I have on my laptop and compare it to early machines I used to play with. Back then we would have called my current laptop a mobil Cray. There is no way we would have considered a 40GB HD, much less put it into a laptop! And we don't consider that 40GB all that big.
Posted 24 November 2003 - 11:16 PM
Posted 26 November 2003 - 08:33 PM
Tidbits is WAAAAAY behind the times for Mac users.
Maccentral, Mac Observer, MacNN have news changes hour by hour as well as other sites like Thinksecret and Macworld UK and about 10 other sites I could list.
Posted 26 November 2003 - 09:40 PM
Thanks for your help Joe.