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#1 bierbelly

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 02:59 PM

OK, how many companies are making Maks now? I know Meade's got one, apparently Celestron is now marketing one, of course there's Questar. What about these Russian and Chinese Maks? I'm curious about who is actually MAKING them, not just marketing them. Does Meade make it's own? Do Meade and Celestron make ANY of their own scopes, or are they all imported? Never mind on that issue, let's stick to Maks... :shrug:

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 03:45 PM

Meade makes the 7" Mak here in the US, but all the others are imported. Celestron's old C90 was made here, but the rest of theirs are imported.

The Russian made Maksutov and Mak/Newts are very well made and most give marvelous views especially considering the price.

Since you asked I'll try to answer the last part too. Meade and Celestron both make their own SCT's in house. Just about everything else they sell is imported.

#3 John Hoare

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 05:32 PM

So far I've only seen Celestron offer Maks as spotting scopes. I looked at the C130 Mak but decided to go for a C5 instead, the rear cell of the C90 and C130 has an integral star diagonal with a flip mirror and an attached erect image diagonal behind that. Too many 'bits' in one unit means it's too easy to have mechanical issues, particularly with the flip mirror.

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 05:42 PM

If I'm not mistaken ITE's scopes are made by both Intes and Intes Micro, both Russian companies, the latter started by an employee of the former.

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 05:45 PM

So who is making what brands? Who makes this LOMO thing? I've noticed that TEC makes a Mak, or at least markets one. What are the names of the Russian makers, or is there only one, and who puts their names on the Russian scopes. I've read that the Konus scopes are made by one of the Chinese makers, which one? I presume that all of the smaller MakCass's are made in China, except the Questar?

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 05:47 PM

Mak sources:

Meade
Celestron
Orion
Orion (UK)
Intes
Intes Micro
Lomo
TEC
Astro Physics (but maybe NLA)
Questar

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 09:46 PM

One other that's no longer around that's worth mentioning is Quantum. I had a 4" Quantum that had razor sharp images. They've been out of business for over 20 years. Started by former Questar employees.

One that I wish I could have back was a Meade 7" Mak OTA without the big weight behind the mirror. Sharp contrasty images even on DSOs.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 02:20 AM






http://www.apogeeinc.com/scopes.html

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 04:59 AM

Ceravolo in Canada also makes Maks which seem to be the APs of Maks, with corresponding price ranges and waiting lists. It looks like they cater mostly to professionals.

Most Russian scopes, from what I heard and those I used, can be recommended. They tend to have user-unfriendly features (like that finderscope with a 4mm eye relief on my MN66), but optically they are excellent.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 05:00 AM

As for TEC, they're made in the US from optics made in the Ukraine.

#11 John Hoare

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 06:47 AM

So who is making what brands? Who makes this LOMO thing? I've noticed that TEC makes a Mak, or at least markets one. What are the names of the Russian makers, or is there only one, and who puts their names on the Russian scopes. I've read that the Konus scopes are made by one of the Chinese makers, which one? I presume that all of the smaller MakCass's are made in China, except the Questar?


I know of 5 Russian optics companies: Intes, Intes Micro, Lomo, LZOS and Tal. There are probably others.

LOMO is yet another quality Russian manufacturer that makes it's own Maks using high grade pyrex for the meniscus and Astrosital for the mirrors. I think the blanks, or perhaps even the finished meniscus and mirrors, may be supplied by another company called LZOS - the Lytkarino Optical Glass Factory that also makes the unusual Astro Rubinar. The optical smoothness of the LOMO Maks' glass elements is highly rated. LOMO also sells some quirky photographic products and other things that serious photography buffs like Wilash would find interesting, including a medium format pinhole camera made mostly of wood. I'm not even going to think about the functionality of Lomo's "action lederhosen", but old-time reconnaissance specialists might find the technology of their sampler cameras and 3D camera/sterescopy kit familiar.

The Konus Maks and Celestron's C90 and C130 spotting scopes look very like products advertised by Sunlong Optical in Sichuan, China. Some of their binoculars (including ones with built-in digital cameras) also look amazingly like Celestron products.

Does anyone have any idea where the ETX series and NexStar 4 are made? Is it by Synta? I know that the NexStar 4 is made somewhere in China, but don't think it's done by Sunlong. Chinese optical manufacturing capacity and capability is building up. One of these days they are going to switch to exporting their consumer products directly and the likes of Celestron and Meade who currently resell these items at a sizeable markup will get quite a shock.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 02:11 PM

So far I've only seen Celestron offer Maks as spotting scopes. I looked at the C130 Mak but decided to go for a C5 instead, the rear cell of the C90 and C130 has an integral star diagonal with a flip mirror and an attached erect image diagonal behind that. Too many 'bits' in one unit means it's too easy to have mechanical issues, particularly with the flip mirror.


I thought meade sold a spotting scope version of the ETX ?

Carlos.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 04:21 PM

So far I've only seen Celestron offer Maks as spotting scopes. I looked at the C130 Mak but decided to go for a C5 instead, the rear cell of the C90 and C130 has an integral star diagonal with a flip mirror and an attached erect image diagonal behind that. Too many 'bits' in one unit means it's too easy to have mechanical issues, particularly with the flip mirror.


I thought meade sold a spotting scope version of the ETX ?

Carlos.


That's correct Carlos, but I was including them in the 'ETX series' since they have the same OTAs and that's how they are advertised on the Meade web site. The Celestron C90 and C130 Maks have no obvious lineal relationship with other Celestron products, except perhaps the NexStar 4 which until recently was the only Celestron MCT, and the new Mak spotters are advertised as a distinctly seperate line.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 05:57 PM

Additional Russian Mak makers are Ylena and Mirage (formerly STF). Both are reputedly very good.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 07:37 PM

Bray Imaging sells both of the above.

http://www.brayimagi...telescopes.html


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