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#26 starman876

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Posted 10 March 2024 - 09:13 AM

Nothing funny about it. If it is missing parts i would pay much less than a complete scope.

that would depend on what part is missing.



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Posted 10 March 2024 - 09:16 AM

You might pay less, but if the separate parts commonly sell for what Starman says, then another buyer would get the deal instead of you. Nothing wrong with that. We all have our limits. But, the market sells to the highest bidder, not the one with a lower sense of value.
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Posted 10 March 2024 - 09:26 AM

You might pay less, but if the separate parts commonly sell for what Starman says, then another buyer would get the deal instead of you. Nothing wrong with that. We all have our limits. But, the market sells to the highest bidder, not the one with a lower sense of value.

that is so true.  The opinion of one person normally is not what a product sells for.  It's true value is what the market will bear.   One person may think the price for an item is nuts while another cannot wait to pay for it. To them it is exactly what they are looking for.  



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Posted 10 March 2024 - 12:24 PM

The person who contacted me did so out of the blue. Ido not know him at all.

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He lives in Seattle .  He probably will be selling it on Craigslist or Marketplace.

I will find out the particulars and let you all know.  
No, I am not receiving anything regarding the sale.  In fact I had thought he lived near me.  
 


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Posted 10 March 2024 - 01:25 PM

The person who contacted me did so out of the blue. Ido not know him at all.

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He lives in Seattle .  He probably will be selling it on Craigslist or Marketplace.

I will find out the particulars and let you all know.  
No, I am not receiving anything regarding the sale.  In fact I had thought he lived near me.  
 

So why bother? They should be doing their own research.

 

Also, just about any telescope is worth much more if sold part by part, so it's not a good way to put a price on a kit. Not to mention a incomplete kit's value is hurt by that very fact.


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Posted 10 March 2024 - 01:44 PM

I like to help people


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Posted 10 March 2024 - 02:20 PM

I like to help people

good man. 


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Posted 10 March 2024 - 02:39 PM

In fact isn't this what we are doing on Cloudy Nights.... helping each other?


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Posted 10 March 2024 - 04:42 PM

In fact isn't this what we are doing on Cloudy Nights.... helping each other?

Well... yeah.  But don't forget the Prime Directive:  S.O.S. -- Save Old Scopes!


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Posted 10 March 2024 - 06:08 PM

I just found this on Marketplace in my area. It looks like it is in good nick

 

40/700mm

 

https://www.facebook...a6-f53a09f59d97


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Posted 10 March 2024 - 07:10 PM

I just found this on Marketplace in my area. It looks like it is in good nick

 

40/700mm

 

https://www.facebook...a6-f53a09f59d97

I would run to go buy that.  Awesome deal.  The 142 models are rare


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Posted 10 March 2024 - 08:00 PM

Also, just about any telescope is worth much more if sold part by part, so it's not a good way to put a price on a kit. Not to mention a incomplete kit's value is hurt by that very fact.


That's true. But, should we expect for a substantially complete kit to sell for half of its cost as separate parts, just because it is not fully complete?

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Posted 10 March 2024 - 08:55 PM

No, the price should be determined by a deduction of what is missing plus a small percentage of the total. Not half. Of course people are entitled to their opinion as long as it is within reason

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Posted 10 March 2024 - 09:22 PM

Bottom line, it is what the buyer wants to pay for it.


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Posted 11 March 2024 - 03:10 AM

I like to help people

It's not like I haven't helped people who come to this site. I've done it quite often and just tonight answered some questions and gave some links for someone looking for infornation in the C8 Registry plus another looking for information on a Polaroscope they just inherited.


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Posted 11 March 2024 - 04:32 AM

I just found this on Marketplace in my area. It looks like it is in good nick

 

40/700mm

 

https://www.facebook...a6-f53a09f59d97

"Good nick" I like that! Is that British?

 

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 04:34 AM

I would run to go buy that.  Awesome deal.  The 142 models are rare

Indeed, that was the first Unitron to receive a big X and diagonal DISCONTINUED stamped over the catalog page. The littlest Unitron. A prize!

 

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 04:54 AM

So why bother? They should be doing their own research.


This is the strangest argument I have ever seen on Cloudy Nights. Since when is someone who is personally not looking to buy, but who would certainly be curious about a rare offering, somehow out-of-place in gathering information about a telescope after being contacted "out-of-the-blue" by the seller? The eventual buyer will, of course, want to confirm everything personally, but is it a moral requirement not to be curious or helpful?

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 07:06 AM

don't try and change the channel on your TV we are now in control


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Posted 11 March 2024 - 07:21 AM

don't try and change the channel on your TV we are now in control

OMG my absolute favorite TV show EVER!!!! I have little kid - really little - memories that are as clear as day! And the music by Dominic Frontiere still makes my hair stand on end.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=8CtjhWhw2I8

 

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 02:48 PM

This is the strangest argument I have ever seen on Cloudy Nights. Since when is someone who is personally not looking to buy, but who would certainly be curious about a rare offering, somehow out-of-place in gathering information about a telescope after being contacted "out-of-the-blue" by the seller? The eventual buyer will, of course, want to confirm everything personally, but is it a moral requirement not to be curious or helpful?

I never said he was out of place, but a moral requirement?

 

You obviously haven't read any of my many posts on helping people who have come to this site with their inquiries. It's just when there's a unknown connection to someone who should probably try to do a little research themselves I kind of questioned it (yes it's understandable, if it was something like a older lady selling her deceased husband's telescope and didn't know how to do the research). BTW, I've been burnt by a few people who didn't even say thanks and or appreciate the help and they made money because of the information I provided. Many of them were just interested in the money they could make and not the telescopes.


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Posted 11 March 2024 - 06:27 PM

OMG my absolute favorite TV show EVER!!!! I have little kid - really little - memories that are as clear as day! And the music by Dominic Frontiere still makes my hair stand on end.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=8CtjhWhw2I8

 

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The first season was the best. That man with the hairy hand tuning some kind of monster in on the TV.  Or that woman jabbing at some black blob bob with a Vac. As what i would pay for a M142 , it would depend on many factors.  How mint it is, how old and how complete.  How nice the black paint is and how good the lens looks. If it is missing parts and has a fogged lens i am gonna pass unless to part out as no one can work on a lens or replace it if it is really fogged.

 

So for say a pre 1965 made 142 that is 95% mint gents with a clear lens and all the facotry boxes and parts i would go 2k all day long. Once it is missing stuff like a tripod tray and or some other parts my price really starts to drop. Same with age, once past the early 70's i would pay much less.


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Posted 12 March 2024 - 07:13 AM

The first season was the best. That man with the hairy hand tuning some kind of monster in on the TV.  Or that woman jabbing at some black blob bob with a Vac. As what i would pay for a M142 , it would depend on many factors.  How mint it is, how old and how complete.  How nice the black paint is and how good the lens looks. If it is missing parts and has a fogged lens i am gonna pass unless to part out as no one can work on a lens or replace it if it is really fogged.

 

So for say a pre 1965 made 142 that is 95% mint gents with a clear lens and all the facotry boxes and parts i would go 2k all day long. Once it is missing stuff like a tripod tray and or some other parts my price really starts to drop. Same with age, once past the early 70's i would pay much less.

so you would  from $2000 for a mint 142 down to what amount for a missing tripod tray?  



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Posted 12 March 2024 - 07:29 AM

Funny. Around 1970 I was lusting on these Polarex (Unitron's name in the EU) telescopes, but as a high-schooler I had no funding for these scopes.

The price you paid then, corrected into 2024 dollars / euros, was more than a modern high end 5" APO with mount + electric clockwork.

Modern scopes (even the cheaper Chinascopes) have at least the quality (which was excellent for those days !) and are lighter and much shorter so more convenient to use. So it is IMHO more a collectors item, than an observing tool.



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Posted 13 March 2024 - 02:53 PM

The person who posted the 40 mm Unitron on Marketplace unfortunately prefers not to ship it..




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