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#1 unfindable

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Posted 23 April 2024 - 08:13 AM

This object was bought by the previous owner 60 years ago in Belgium and it is a not complete round solid metal object  with a sort of crystal pocket in it. It has been cleaned sadly. You guys know allot so i am very curious what you think about this object. It measures 9 cm wide and weighs 3671 grams

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Posted 23 April 2024 - 08:30 AM

Looks like something designed to be propelled at great speed towards someone one wishes ill.

 

And it probably is that too. Lots of stuff like that in europe. Lots of historical beastliness.


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Posted 23 April 2024 - 08:55 AM

Looks like something designed to be propelled at great speed towards someone one wishes ill towards.

 

And it probably is that too. Lots of stuff like that in europe. Lots of historical beastliness.

so you suggest cannonball, but there is an everlasting discussion about cannonballs that they always must be round and all the experts on cannonballs say that. But my object is as seen in my writings not perfectly round. And way heavier than a cannonball i thought???


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Posted 23 April 2024 - 09:30 AM

so you suggest cannonball, but there is an everlasting discussion about cannonballs that they always must be round and all the experts on cannonballs say that. But my object is as seen in my writings not perfectly round. And way heavier than a cannonball i thought???

Well, it doesnt resemble a meteorite in any respect, so perhaps you need to speak to cannonball experts.



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Posted 23 April 2024 - 12:02 PM

Nice cannonball. I got one too.

And just like yours mine is not perfectly round either.

I also own some musket balls.

 

If you're still convinced you have an amazingly round meteorite, you know what to do. Ferric chloride or nitric acid will clear your doubts quickly, easily and cheaply.

 

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Posted 23 April 2024 - 02:38 PM

Nice cannonball. I got one too.

And just like yours mine is not perfectly round either.

I also own some musket balls.

 

If you're still convinced you have an amazingly round meteorite, you know what to do. Ferric chloride or nitric acid will clear your doubts quickly, easily and cheaply.

 

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well i am mostly interested in what the density is and the hollow feature is natural, and not from casting or man made operations. And there seems to bee a white crystal inside the hollow feature. But again how big is the chance you find a round meteorite.



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Posted 23 April 2024 - 09:50 PM

well i am mostly interested in what the density is and the hollow feature is natural, and not from casting or man made operations. And there seems to bee a white crystal inside the hollow feature. But again how big is the chance you find a round meteorite.

Do you have any meteorites that you have purchased? You know, some certified meteorite with an entry in the bulletin. It would be a pity if, being so enthusiastic about the subject, your life goes away and you waste it without ever having had a real meteorite in your hands. It would be a pity considering how easy it is to get an authentic meteorite these days.

 

The amount of time you invest in searching for the bottle cork in the ocean could be invested in learning the theoretical and academic side of meteorites. Learning under what physical and chemical processes they are formed would help you realize why your guesses are wrong from the beginning.

 

Take my advice:

1.- Buy your meteorites. Don't waste time looking for what doesn't exist or seeing evidence where there isn't any.
2.- Invest part of your free time to learn about planetary formation, basic astronomy, basic chemistry, basic physics
3.- Once both things come naturally to you and if you still have the interest in finding meteorites, save money and take a travel to the deserts to look for meteorites. There are people in Africa and South America (Chile) dedicated to doing meteorite search tours. I know Chilean people who are meteorite hunters. Some of them have findings classified in the Meteoritic Society bulletin.


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Posted 24 April 2024 - 02:49 AM

Do you have any meteorites that you have purchased? You know, some certified meteorite with an entry in the bulletin. It would be a pity if, being so enthusiastic about the subject, your life goes away and you waste it without ever having had a real meteorite in your hands. It would be a pity considering how easy it is to get an authentic meteorite these days.

 

The amount of time you invest in searching for the bottle cork in the ocean could be invested in learning the theoretical and academic side of meteorites. Learning under what physical and chemical processes they are formed would help you realize why your guesses are wrong from the beginning.

 

Take my advice:

1.- Buy your meteorites. Don't waste time looking for what doesn't exist or seeing evidence where there isn't any.
2.- Invest part of your free time to learn about planetary formation, basic astronomy, basic chemistry, basic physics
3.- Once both things come naturally to you and if you still have the interest in finding meteorites, save money and take a travel to the deserts to look for meteorites. There are people in Africa and South America (Chile) dedicated to doing meteorite search tours. I know Chilean people who are meteorite hunters. Some of them have findings classified in the Meteoritic Society bulletin.

I wonder if it might be possible to search in Antarctica. That would be the dream for me! Every stone is a meteorite!



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Posted 24 April 2024 - 03:18 AM

I wonder if it might be possible to search in Antarctica. That would be the dream for me! Every stone is a meteorite!

This is a document in Spanish. I suggest you to get an online translator.

 

https://documents.at...tt/Att704_s.pdf

"This Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research (SCAR) code of conduct provides
guidance when planning or undertaking geoscience research activities
on the ground in the Antarctic Treaty area"



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Posted 27 April 2024 - 09:00 AM

Do you have any meteorites that you have purchased? You know, some certified meteorite with an entry in the bulletin. It would be a pity if, being so enthusiastic about the subject, your life goes away and you waste it without ever having had a real meteorite in your hands. It would be a pity considering how easy it is to get an authentic meteorite these days.

 

The amount of time you invest in searching for the bottle cork in the ocean could be invested in learning the theoretical and academic side of meteorites. Learning under what physical and chemical processes they are formed would help you realize why your guesses are wrong from the beginning.

 

Take my advice:

1.- Buy your meteorites. Don't waste time looking for what doesn't exist or seeing evidence where there isn't any.
2.- Invest part of your free time to learn about planetary formation, basic astronomy, basic chemistry, basic physics
3.- Once both things come naturally to you and if you still have the interest in finding meteorites, save money and take a travel to the deserts to look for meteorites. There are people in Africa and South America (Chile) dedicated to doing meteorite search tours. I know Chilean people who are meteorite hunters. Some of them have findings classified in the Meteoritic Society bulletin.

i understand what you are saying, but i like to do the hard thing and not the easy way. Everyone can buy a meteorite and i have had several of them but that doesn't satisfy me. I want to find a meteorite myself and that is very rare i know but you never know where you stumble on one day. And also i learn allot about all kinds of strange rocks and pseudo meteorites and am going to be better in regocnizing the real thing.


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Posted 27 April 2024 - 02:06 PM

i understand what you are saying, but i like to do the hard thing and not the easy way. Everyone can buy a meteorite and i have had several of them but that doesn't satisfy me. I want to find a meteorite myself and that is very rare i know but you never know where you stumble on one day. And also i learn allot about all kinds of strange rocks and pseudo meteorites and am going to be better in regocnizing the real thing.

Cheers on that



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Posted 21 July 2024 - 11:38 PM

i understand what you are saying, but i like to do the hard thing and not the easy way. Everyone can buy a meteorite and i have had several of them but that doesn't satisfy me. I want to find a meteorite myself and that is very rare i know but you never know where you stumble on one day. And also i learn allot about all kinds of strange rocks and pseudo meteorites and am going to be better in regocnizing the real thing.

Hi there, depending on where you live, the first thing to do it research some known falls or known strewn fields. Then, depending where they are (open land, free land, private, BLM, etc.) go and hunt those areas for any pieces missed. The weather can expose meteorites from a long time ago and now ready for someone to find them. I am fortunate to live in an area where the desert preserves then pretty well. And the surrounding states too. 

 

Happy Hunting. 

 

Jason


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Posted 31 July 2024 - 03:25 PM

Hi there, depending on where you live, the first thing to do it research some known falls or known strewn fields. Then, depending where they are (open land, free land, private, BLM, etc.) go and hunt those areas for any pieces missed. The weather can expose meteorites from a long time ago and now ready for someone to find them. I am fortunate to live in an area where the desert preserves then pretty well. And the surrounding states too. 

 

Happy Hunting. 

 

Jason

sadly that is a bit hard and impossible where i live in europe. but i have a surprise coming up, watch this space.




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