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[BYoesle]

From The Goldendale Sentinel

 

 

"This event was very 'cool,' but I was not overcome with emotion nor driven to hoot and holler as many of those present seemed compelled to do. While this was a truly rare and unique experience, I certainly understand why most people are not motivated to travel hundreds or thousands of miles for eclipses. I hope no one was upset by internet astronomy nerds accosting people for not being sufficiently enthused in their grand estimation. I was encouraged by the number of internet posts from normal people truly enjoying partial eclipses from outside the centerline." Emphasis added. 

 

[kfiscus]

Seems very full of himself.  I doubt that he's experienced a TSE in person.  I could be wrong on both assumptions.

Edited by kfiscus, 17 June 2024 - 01:06 PM.

[BYoesle]

This was his first total solar eclipse. And he is indeed "very full of himself."

 

See my Goldendale Observatory link below.

[Cajundaddy]

There is no accounting for taste.

[Exeligmos]

Interesting…

 

    "This event was very 'cool,' but I was not overcome with emotion nor driven to hoot and holler as many of those present seemed compelled to do.”

 

What does me mean by ‘emotion’? I certainly was overcome by something, but I’m not sure I’d call it emotion — at least not completely. I may have blurted out an “oh my gosh!” or “ooh, look at that!” to those around me, but I don't think I did any hootin’ and hollering.

 

    “While this was a truly rare and unique experience, I certainly understand why most people are not motivated to travel hundreds or thousands of miles for eclipses.”

 

Yes, it was a truly rare and unique experience. No, you don’t understand why people were not motivated to go to the trouble. There were *so many* who missed out on the eclipse but would have made a great effort to get to the centerline if they knew how special it is. On the other hand, many others who stayed home just wouldn’t have been interested enough to make the trip in any case. Mr. Carpenter may indeed understand this second group a little better.

 

    “I hope no one was upset by internet astronomy nerds accosting people for not being sufficiently enthused in their grand estimation.”

 

I agree. People shouldn’t be badgered for not having 'sufficient' enthusiasm. This is true with anything that is a matter of interest or taste. However, the 'nerds' may have 'accosted' those who expressed a lack of enthusiasm but never actually saw a TSE.

 

    “I was encouraged by the number of internet posts from normal people truly enjoying partial eclipses from outside the centerline."

 

What does this statement even mean? Encouraged by what? I would be disheartened if someone told me how cool the 98% eclipse was, while not knowing they missed out on a profoundly sublime experience.

 

He may just not appreciate the beauty of nature quite like many of us do. There is nothing wrong with that. Some of us are just wired differently. He does seem to be quite interested in the technical and mathematical aspects of astronomy. For all we know, the event may have had a diminished impact on him while he was busily operating his equipment for the duration. That’s why I limited my tech to iPhone video.

 

Since he has seen a total eclipse in person, I respect his response to it. What I wouldn’t respect is for someone to discourage others from making it to a TSE — *especially* if that person had never seen one.

[yuzameh]

    "This event was very 'cool,' but I was not overcome with emotion nor driven to hoot and holler as many of those present seemed compelled to do.”

 

serves him right for living in the us of a.

 

of course with all the tv shows seen everywhere from there nowadays this tendency to whoop and holler and shout 'oh my god' over the slightest of things, like, oh my god, why do people do that?, such inanities are being exported.

 

i'd wanna concentrate on the event and enjoy it, without noise, or music in the background from someone trying to get all new agey, or whatever, or distracting the thing by folk behaving like someone at an annual pop festival that's been going too many years where some geriatric (british as well) super group zimmer frames across the stage.

 

Oh, and just in case, no corona, but 99% eclipse does go just as cold, it does go nearly as dark (no stars mind), and the birds and other noise makers go remarkably quiet.  Kinda creepy in a very interesting and enjoyable way.

 

Diss eclipses, nah, diss people, easy.

 

who is this young herbert anyway who looks like an escapee from eighties ska band, complete with the hat (surely he weren't even born then) and where is this best public telescope (note the singular)?  surely lowell can piddle all over that claim.  Doubt any formal professional public observatory would go have a director claiming to be a computer wiz.  I mean, does that really mean anything anymore?

 

Mind you he makes some salient points.

 

oh my god, i can't believe i said that, like wow

[MEE]

From the article:

“During totality, the sky did not become as dark as I expected; I would describe it as bright civil twilight.”

No. He WANTED the sky to be darker. If he had done ANY proper research, he would have found out that the AVERAGE darkness of a totality is about that of civil twilight

“This is pertinent, as there was some expectation of being able to see comet 12P/Pons-Brooks.”

No, there was no expectation. Articles written by experienced eclipse chasers stated that seeing the comet would be difficult, at best, and probably not worth spending any more than a few seconds looking for it

“The corona did not appear as large as I expected to the naked eye”

What was he basing this on? Once again, articles and posts from experienced eclipse chasers stated the corona would extend for 2-3 solar diameters - and that’s what happened

How big was he thinking the corona would be?

My thought? He was relying on the mainstream media for his research, not experienced eclipse chasers


“I certainly understand why most people are not motivated to travel hundreds or thousands of miles for eclipses.”

He is not distinguishing the significant difference between partial (not worth traveling for) and total (worth traveling for- not just for the totality itself, but for visiting the location that experiences the totality)

We can’t FORCE people to go see a totality, or to have the same enthusiasm we have, but we shouldn’t say anything that DISCOURAGES people from experiencing totality

[MEE]

[quote name="yuzameh" post="13514567" timestamp="1718672170"]

serves him right for living in the us of a.

What does that have to do with anything?