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Street lights don't stop crime - Seattle experience

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#1 deSitter

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Posted 03 September 2024 - 04:46 PM

https://www.msn.com/...hts/ar-AA1pNNZA

 

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Posted 03 September 2024 - 04:59 PM

Of course they don't stop crime. They make the valuables more visible for thieves to spot at a greater distance smirk.gif 


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Posted 03 September 2024 - 05:33 PM

Yeah, that's well-documented... can't deny the truth. Of course, now-a-days, nothing does!    Tom



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Posted 03 September 2024 - 07:36 PM

I particularly like the 2008 reference to a lighting study in Britain & America in the 70s, 80s & 90s that suggests reduction in crime was not due to surveillance and deterrence, but rather community pride, cohesiveness and informal social control as a result of the public investment in better lighting.

 

This sounds like a classic architectural design principle called Defensible Space Theory pitched by Oscar Newman in he 1970s.  Good read and research topic for anyone interested in learning about human spaces in the public and private domains and what sustains defensible spaces.  https://en.wikipedia...le_space_theory

 

When people feel the space is worth defending, crime becomes preventable.  Great social control mechanism, which in the case of "better lighting" the theory proves true.  Dimmer, better positioned public lighting that is environmentally designed can be both beneficial and reduce crime because of the pshycological effects on the human social structure, whereas brighter, poorly aimed, overly powerful lighting can in fact foster criminal activity. 

 

https://www.youtube....?v=9KQP_BYuM6k 

 

Good read, enjoy!


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Posted 11 September 2024 - 12:54 PM

Especially with the ultra bright white LED lighting- that is usually improperly installed or oriented on a houses eaves or side. That causes harsh glare while creating deep pockets of darkness behind the fixtures. A place where a malcontent can be hiding or quietly working on a door lock or window latch. 


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Posted 13 September 2024 - 09:05 AM

Thanks for the article.  Good read.  



#7 dcornelis

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Posted 14 September 2024 - 03:36 AM

If streetlights would stop crime and theft at night I would live in the safest country in the world, Belgium, yet that is not the case.

Also all those cameras all over the country only seem to be there to milk the citizens  and extremely seldomly lead to stopping crime.




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