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Tethys transit - 9/17-18/24 - For those of you keeping score this is third night in a row

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#1 dcaponeii

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Posted 18 September 2024 - 08:26 AM

First of all I have to thank Frank for saving my imaging session this morning with Metaguide.  Titan was close by last night (before midnight actually so technically some of this data is from the 17th).  It had an obvious flare.  Apparently, I wasn't the only one with collimation issues last night from reading other posts.  This is unusual for this scope as it's pretty stable and holds collimation well plus it's permanently mounted in it's building.  Saturn was in the south eastern sky only about 40 degrees above the horizon which is an unusual location for me to image towards.  Maybe that was it.  In any case I made a quick adjustment and clear up the flare and continued on with my Saturn imaging.  Frank hasn't saved the day (night) yet but stay with me.

 

After imaging Saturn I left the scope and computers out (covered against dew) but ready to go.  In fact I cut my Saturn session short by an hour from the planned imaging session because I just couldn't say awake anymore.  Got about 4 hours sleep ahead of the GRS transit this morning.  Woke without the alarm clock about 30 minutes earlier than planned and got outside.  Good thing I did because when I pointed to Jupiter the image was horrendous.  Three Galilean moons were tightly clustered away from Jupiter a bit so I slewed to those to see if I could determine the trouble.  Once again flaring on all the moons and worse than for Titan earlier.  (As you will see in this thread the Saturn data came out very nice and the collimation was good for that data collection)  Anyway, reached down to tweak the collimation and the screw came loose in my hand!!!.  Image jumped off screen (which can (WILL) happen when one of the three collimation screws becomes disengaged from the mirror support!!).

 

OMG not what. Opened up the ROI to full chip and found Jupiter again.  Centered the moons again (after 6 or 7 tries trying to remember how to reduce the ROI without FC centering on Jupiter instead of on the moons where I wanted it to point!! UGH just more sleep deprived screw ups on my part).  Anyway we got things close again after a few minutes and then worked the screws to make sure they were all well seated.  (Having an image on the screen is a real help hear as you move screws, just make sure the image ends up back where it started from and you can adjust fairly quickly to get close.)

 

I was so far out though I couldn't depend of moon flares to dial in the scope.  Launched Metaguide and sure enough red dot was pinned on the right hand side.  Couple of tweaks and got it centered up.  Good to go.  The entire episode only cost me about 20 minutes but it's nice to know (I mean REALLY know, that your collimation is dialed in when you see that red dot centered and a nice first diffraction rings surrounding it)  The Jupiter data looks good too but there is a lot of it and it will be awhile before I get that organized into something presentable.

 

Without further ado, here is a 5-image derotation towards the end of my Saturn data.  I'll get an animation together shortly but here is a good start.  I can't believe we saved to session (Frank and I) and I really can't believe this is the third night in a row with interesting Saturn events to display.  I rushed this one so it's a little ratty.  I'll do a more thorough job of it as the day progresses.

 

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Note:  I used the Background enhancement tool to bring Titan into better visibility during the sharpening portion of the processing.


Edited by dcaponeii, 18 September 2024 - 04:59 PM.

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Posted 18 September 2024 - 08:48 AM

Here is a quickie animation using the 70 60s captures.  Each image is a 25% stack of 9800 frames.  Titan and Tethys were bought up from the background with the background enhancement tool.  I did not try and pull Enceladus and Mimas out of the background in this version as they are both close to the rings in the upper right.  Too much work to fiddle at this point in my processing.

 

Tethys Transit - 9/17-18/24 - animated align  equal w600h448
 
Click on the image to launch the APNG in my gallery.  I just realized that if you look closely at Tethys before it begins to transit you can see the couple of time jumps occupied by my correction of the Titan flare.

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Posted 18 September 2024 - 09:11 AM

Don, stunning animation! I will definitely be tweaking my collimation as you outlined here. Thanks for taking the time to document this. Congrats on this capture

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Posted 18 September 2024 - 09:57 AM

Actually Don, I do see Mimas and Enceladus in the Apng. Excellent work!!


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Posted 18 September 2024 - 09:58 AM

  That's terrific animation waytogo.gif  ....very cool that you captured the transit.


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Posted 18 September 2024 - 10:01 AM

Actually Don, I do see Mimas and Enceladus in the Apng. Excellent work!!


You’re right. I had to zoom in with my phone but they are there. Thanks

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Posted 18 September 2024 - 10:05 AM

Great capture and great animation. Nicely resolved Titan you have there.


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Posted 18 September 2024 - 12:36 PM

That's a really beautiful animation!

 

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Posted 18 September 2024 - 01:07 PM

That's a really beautiful animation!

 

Kevin

Listen the credit goes to Cor.  I'm just pushing the buttons!!
 


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Posted 18 September 2024 - 06:21 PM

Really nice work again Don, the animation is great!

 

The single de-rotated image has a different colour balance to the animation (I much prefer the colours in the animation, looks more "natural" to me) and there's something strange going on with Titan in the single frame too (it looks pixelated). The animation is the real winner here (imho).


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Posted 18 September 2024 - 07:56 PM

Really nice work again Don, the animation is great!

 

The single de-rotated image has a different colour balance to the animation (I much prefer the colours in the animation, looks more "natural" to me) and there's something strange going on with Titan in the single frame too (it looks pixelated). The animation is the real winner here (imho).

I suspect it's the deconvolution in Astra Image that messed with Titan.  I didn't think to replace it with the original sharpened moon like I usually do.
 



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Posted 22 September 2024 - 07:56 AM

That's one of the best Saturn animations I've seen.


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Posted 22 September 2024 - 07:37 PM

That's one of the best Saturn animations I've seen.

That is very gracious of you.  Thank you.
 


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Posted 23 September 2024 - 04:06 PM

Yes, a lovely animation and still. What really adds to both images is the moon's shadow tucked closely in behind the moon. This gives a real sense of depth.

Cheers Paul


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