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[MrFingertips]

Hi all!  Can I get some information on how to identify or if anyone knows this vintage telescope I have? If this isn't the right forum or way to ask, please direct where I go with my inquiry.  Thanks for any info or direction. 

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[Don W]

Something about it says Edmund Scientific. I think they were located in Barrington, NJ.

 

I’m sure the have been out of the telescope business for a long time. They had an interesting fork-mounted 8” Newtonian that interested me when I entered this hobby. They sold all kinds of scientific stuff, much of it was surplus. But they also sold microscopes, telescopes and assorted accessories.

DonW

[Lazaroff]

Deluxe Space Conqueror, 4 1/4 inch, from Edmund Scientific, Barrington, N.J.

 

See post #9 in this thread:

 

https://www.cloudyni...onqueror-4-14”/

[Marc-Andre]

It appears to be an old 4.5" f10 Edmund Scientific reflector, Mount, telescope and focuser. The finder is a newer one from Orion. The four extra holes in the tube could have been where the original finder was attached.

Edited by Marc-Andre, 21 September 2024 - 11:30 AM.

[upwinddan]

Hi all!  Can I get some information on how to identify or if anyone knows this vintage telescope I have? If this isn't the right forum or way to ask, please direct where I go with my inquiry.  Thanks for any info or direction. 

Edmund, nice piece of American history. 

[Terra Nova]

It’s an Edmund 4.25” F10 with a repaint. Here’s the one I used to have:

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Edited by Terra Nova, 21 September 2024 - 12:34 PM.

[Don W]

Am I good or what? LOL

[apfever]

Terra's saddle plate looks different. Is that Candy Apple?  I still have a can I always thought would be great for an RV-6 but never did.

 

Congratulations MrFingertips that is an older version Edmund 4.25" F10, older than the one shown in the ad.

 

The one in the ad has the pier cap offset to one side. The older ones have the pier cap symmetrical like yours. The symmetrical ones are designed better inside and less likely to crush the thin pier pipe.  Yours has a cross of old and new. Your optical tube assembly (OTA) is bolted on. These were originally held on by straps through the long slots on the mounting plate.  Your setting circle looks newer but it's hard to tell in your photo. 

 

The add has bold type in the upper left corner "Deluxe Space Conqueror".  Smaller print a the top right is " 4 1/4" Palomar-Type Reflector".  Edmund changed the name from the Palomar series to the Space Conqueror series.

Edited by apfever, 21 September 2024 - 02:48 PM.

[apfever]

Here's one I restored. This is the early Palomar Jr. 4.25" F10. It has the symmetrical pier cap, straps to hold the OTA on, and early setting circles. The 4 holes on the side of the tube are for a bracket that holds a multi purpose rod. There is an attachment on the rod that can hold a camera or a solar viewing plate. The other scopes in the picture show the bracket and assembly on the 6" version.

The Palomar Junior became the Deluxe Space Conqueror.

The Palomar became the Super Space Conqueror.

The next one up was the 8". Just 8". Edmund didn't give the 8" a name.

 

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Edited by apfever, 21 September 2024 - 03:04 PM.

[DrBB]

The scroll painting on the OTA says 60s-70s to me, though it's probably not original, more's the pity. Unless Edmund had a spasm of marketing to the psychedelic set. "Space Conqueror" certainly seems like a fling in that direction. It's a trip!

[Terra Nova]

Terra's saddle plate looks different. Is that Candy Apple?  I still have a can I always thought would be great for an RV-6 but never did.

 

Congratulations MrFingertips that is an older version Edmund 4.25" F10, older than the one shown in the ad.

post-221491-0-13111900-1591606034.jpg

 

The one in the ad has the pier cap offset to one side. The older ones have the pier cap symmetrical like yours. The symmetrical ones are designed better inside and less likely to crush the thin pier pipe.  Yours has a cross of old and new. Your optical tube assembly (OTA) is bolted on. These were originally held on by straps through the long slots on the mounting plate.  Your setting circle looks newer but it's hard to tell in your photo. 

 

The add has bold type in the upper left corner "Deluxe Space Conqueror".  Smaller print a the top right is " 4 1/4" Palomar-Type Reflector".  Edmund changed the name from the Palomar series to the Space Conqueror series.

That’s because there is no saddle plate. The mount had been modified by the removal of the original saddle and the attachment of a Vixen clamp at the top of the dec shaft. There’s a Vixen rail holding the tube rings. And yep, the tube is the original 2nd series Edmund Red from the late ‘70s.

[Exnihilo]

Cool find!  All it takes to ID is that cast with “Barrington” on it

Terra, that was a gorgeous scope.

[MrFingertips]

Something about it says Edmund Scientific. I think they were located in Barrington, NJ.

 

I’m sure the have been out of the telescope business for a long time. They had an interesting fork-mounted 8” Newtonian that interested me when I entered this hobby. They sold all kinds of scientific stuff, much of it was surplus. But they also sold microscopes, telescopes and assorted accessories.

DonW

Sounds about right.  That's the info I gathered prior to asking here and the rest of replies agree with you as well.  

[MrFingertips]

The scroll painting on the OTA says 60s-70s to me, though it's probably not original, more's the pity. Unless Edmund had a spasm of marketing to the psychedelic set. "Space Conqueror" certainly seems like a fling in that direction. It's a trip!

Thank you for your reply!   The scope was repainted before I got it and the "scroll painting" are decals I added later))  

[MrFingertips]

Here's one I restored. This is the early Palomar Jr. 4.25" F10. It has the symmetrical pier cap, straps to hold the OTA on, and early setting circles. The 4 holes on the side of the tube are for a bracket that holds a multi purpose rod. There is an attachment on the rod that can hold a camera or a solar viewing plate. The other scopes in the picture show the bracket and assembly on the 6" version.

The Palomar Junior became the Deluxe Space Conqueror.

The Palomar became the Super Space Conqueror.

The next one up was the 8". Just 8". Edmund didn't give the 8" a name.

Nice work on the restoration...mine can use a bit of TLC for sure. 

[MrFingertips]

Thanks all for the awesome responses!  I'm aware the telescope was customized some and some parts are missing like mentioned above, to attach a camera etc. I also still have the original finder.  I've used it many times, works great.  I figured out some things about it and even learned to use the laser to position the lens but I still lack a loooot of technical knowledge on the topic.  You all are pros here, that shows...I had to look up what the dang "pier cap" is))  So is it the Palomar Jr 4.25 f10 or Edmund Scientific 4.25 f10?  and about what year was it made in?  Also, I'm trying to free up space and was thinking on possibly selling it.  Can anyone advise me what to do best?  Maybe someone in the Forum is interested in vintage telescopes.  What would be a fair price?  Just want to pass it on to someone who will appreciate it.  Thanks again ya'll!!

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