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[tarbat]

Posted by ZWO this morning on the in-app Seestar Community page. Speculation?

 

Edited by tarbat, 25 September 2024 - 02:47 AM.

[Regulus 1.36]

The upcoming SeeStar model is anticipated to match the current model's impressiveness. It appears to be somewhat wider, potentially accommodating a guide or a wide camera. The design of the front plate hints at the possibility of a larger objective lens concealed within.

 

While anything is conceivable internally, speculation often leads to disappointment by many.

[Psion]

Maybe a 70-80mm refractor with a guider?

[tarbat]

I'm hoping for a guiding camera and either EQ mode or a rotating sensor.  That would enable much longer sub-exposures, so avoiding the need for hundreds (thousands!!) of sub-exposures. But that's pure speculation.

 

I do wonder how this announcement will hit sales of the current Seestar S50.  My local dealer still has 80 in stock!

[GSBass]

Guess it depends on on how big a discount they can do, they should be sable to move the remainder at the right price. Is coming soon all we know? No reveal date?

I'm hoping for a guiding camera and either EQ mode or a rotating sensor.  That would enable much longer sub-exposures, so avoiding the need for hundreds (thousands!!) of sub-exposures. But that's pure speculation.

 

I do wonder how this announcement will hit sales of the current Seestar S50.  My local dealer still has 80 in stock!

[GSBass]

Looks like the small camera is too snaller to be a guider, seems more likely they took dwarf labs lead and thinking Milky Way shots and finder… that’s not a bad thing, it’s the feature that makes the dwarf so nice to use, especially for moon, sun , birding etc.

[Regulus 1.36]

I do wonder how this announcement will hit sales of the current Seestar S50. My local dealer still has 80 in stock!

Chances are high that this model will be more expensive than the current S50. However, with a few software updates, the current S50 could live on, as there is always room for a less expensive option.

[carver2011]

Like other telescopes, there will be different models. I don't think this new one will be priced as low as the SeeStar s50, so the SeeStar s50 will continue to sell well. The s50 will be the entry level scope for people wanting to get into astronomy. I think this new scope will be ZWO's entry into the higher priced smart scope market. If it's not priced too crazy, I will buy one.

[Psion]

Looks like the small camera is too snaller to be a guider, seems more likely they took dwarf labs lead and thinking Milky Way shots and finder… that’s not a bad thing, it’s the feature that makes the dwarf so nice to use, especially for moon, sun , birding etc.

For a focal length of 150 mm a very small guider is really enough.

[GSBass]

Making the assumption that it’s a finder/Milkyway lens and that it’s roughly the same size as dwarfs… I think we just have a modified s50, it should have a new chip though and will probably be nice, here is an overlay on dwarf 3

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[PEterW]

Anyone got an idea on “Soon”… for more details, pricing, availability? They’ve learnt a lot from the S50, do hope field of view isn’t”too small”.

Peter

[GSBass]

If my mock up above is correct then I predict pricing will stay the same, they will probably discount the s50 to 350-399 to clear out remaining stock before this launches…big guesses here but I think it’s right, even cabinet size seems to support being very similar to existing seestar

Anyone got an idea on “Soon”… for more details, pricing, availability? They’ve learnt a lot from the S50, do hope field of view isn’t”too small”.

Peter

Edited by GSBass, 25 September 2024 - 07:02 AM.

[LDW47]

I'm hoping for a guiding camera and either EQ mode or a rotating sensor.  That would enable much longer sub-exposures, so avoiding the need for hundreds (thousands!!) of sub-exposures. But that's pure speculation.

 

I do wonder how this announcement will hit sales of the current Seestar S50.  My local dealer still has 80 in stock!

A new price may control that somewhat.

[LDW47]

Making the assumption that it’s a finder/Milkyway lens and that it’s roughly the same size as dwarfs… I think we just have a modified s50, it should have a new chip though and will probably be nice, here is an overlay on dwarf 3

Here we go again, right ?

 

Posted by ZWO this morning on the in-app Seestar Community page. Speculation?

 

Put my name on one, they haven't let us down yet.  I am kind of glad the D3 got held up til 25.

[LDW47]

Whats just around the corner who knows, even the so called experts on here don't. But one thing is guaranteed ZWO will never ever let anyone else get ahead of them, we just have to be patient and learn not to listen to know it alls that know nothing, lol.

[LDW47]

ZWO truly is the industry leader just like Garmin, Lowrance and others in their field.  And that will never change, watch out Universe, watch out World, its steamin round the bend ! Now if the non astronomer experts of all ages will just keep out of it with their know more than the experts, things will fly along. Just MHO !

[GSBass]

Looks like arm is slightly bigger

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[bobhen]

That's the problem with modern technology, advancements and improvements come around pretty darn fast. You jump in and you feel great because, let's face it, technology can be pretty magical. And then, 18-months later you feel like you are using a dinosaur.

 

Bob

[GSBass]

However if you shrink to match the size of the existing arm… then we appear to have the long rumored s30

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[tarbat]

Looks like arm is slightly bigger

How do you deduce that the arm is bigger?

http://x.com/zwoastr...888677751304223

 

Edited by tarbat, 25 September 2024 - 07:37 AM.

[GSBass]

True.. I have two dinosaurs in the house now, I think it’s fine at the 500 price point… it the more expensive robots that the obsolescence factor hurts… probably why I jumped on dwarf3 but still running my vespera classic 3 models later

That's the problem with modern technology, advancements and improvements come around pretty darn fast. You jump in and you feel great because, let's face it, technology can be pretty magical. And then, 18-months later you feel like you are using a dinosaur.

 

Bob

Edited by GSBass, 25 September 2024 - 07:56 AM.

[GSBass]

From overlay you can see if it’s 50mm the arm is bigger, if it’s 30mm then the arm is the same size…. Might be notable that at 30mm it’s an exact fit overlaid on existing s50,

How do you deduce that the arm is bigger?

http://x.com/zwoastr...888677751304223

 

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Edited by GSBass, 25 September 2024 - 07:46 AM.

[tarbat]

So you're guessing the aperture size and then applying "ifs" to that.

 

From overlay you can see if it’s 50mm the arm is bigger, if it’s 30mm then the arm is the same size

[jprideaux]

That's the problem with modern technology, advancements and improvements come around pretty darn fast. You jump in and you feel great because, let's face it, technology can be pretty magical. And then, 18-months later you feel like you are using a dinosaur.

Bob

We are fortunate to have this problem!

My guess is a slightly bigger optics (and finder/guide camera), better gears, and software support for equatorial mode for a higher price. You provide your own tripod/wedge. I predict they will market it as your second telescope (after you first got the SeeStarS50. If my guess is correct, they will keep selling the S50. We will see. The only thing I am sure of is that I am probably wrong.

[GSBass]

Possibly s30 meant to be direct competitor to dwarf 3, they may even be able to undercut d3 price if they are using existing parts… assembly line would be mostly the same, 399 or lower?