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1953 Goto 60mm f15 with Unusual Mount and Acc.

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#1 Steve_M_M

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 06:45 PM

I just took delivery of a 1953 Goto of Japan 60mm f15 refractor. This is one beautiful scope. It also has the crazy "exoskeletal" EQ mount as pictured in the last posting about a Goto telescope.

The base is interesting in that instead of the swooped fork mount style of the last post, this one has a slotted aluminum dome to set your latitude. The dome is very nicely engraved "Goto Kogaku (sp?"

The tripod is the most heavy duty tripod I have ever seen for a scope of this size. And, when you see the pictures, check out the original hanger wires that provide support for the tripod.

The .965" ocular holder is a compression clamp style ala today. The telescope also has a 1.25" holder. There is an unusual sliding barlow. It also came with several eyepieces.

The telescope box is dated Sept 30, 1953.

I have seen many classic scope, but this one came with a couple accessories I could really use some assistance in identifying. I could describe them, but instead I will post pictures when I get home in a couple hours.

Pictures to follow in a couple hours......

Steve

PS, my search for Goto scopes also yielded a nice 60mm f15 OTA in a beautiful case and a mid-size EQ mount.

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:40 PM

And the mount....

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:41 PM

Another

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:41 PM

And now the part I really need help with....

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:44 PM

That is a prism at the front. The knurled portion near the center rotates. There are lenses in every tube. Note the small little hole in the part near center. The eyepiece is in the back.

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:17 PM

Possibly a spectroscope...?

That is a prism at the front. The knurled portion near the center rotates. There are lenses in every tube. Note the small little hole in the part near center. The eyepiece is in the back.



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Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:41 PM

Great looking scope and a classic for sure. The tubes, eyepieces and prism look like a Unihex type device without the central assembly to mount them together. In any case this is a nice find.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:49 PM

That mount is very unique, the Latitude dome and unusual counter weights no doubt make this a rare and treasured find. The Tripod also looks to be better than the typical quality of the time.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 10:05 PM

Steve,

That has to be one of the all time best classic telescope finds! Congratulations on a super beautiful classic.

Now I need to clean the drool off the keyboard. :waytogo:

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 10:49 PM

Thanks. I am pretty excited myself.

I just wish I knew what that part was. I know it is Goto as the eyepiece threads nicely into the end. I would suspect the whole assembly may go into the tube somehow. The knurled rotating part may be in the wrong place.

Here is the Goto #451 and mount for Goto #106 that also arrived this week.

I am having a Goto festival!

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:28 PM

HI Steve,

I'm with Mark on this one. That mystery piece might be some kind of projection spectroscope. At one time, these were used to detect distant planetary nebulaes that appeared stellar. By projecting through a prism, the planetary would show a different appearance from the rest of surrounding field stars. I read about this in the Webb Society handbook on nebulae. I don't really know, but that is my best guess.

It might be something the original owner had custom made by Goto or to fit the Goto....???

Beautiful scope BTW. Gorgeous. Now I am all but certain I am going to powdercoat my Orion f/6 a nice gloss white. ;)

How are the optics?

Regards and clear skies,

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 01:58 PM

Steve,

Very nice ... where did you find something like that. I've been searching the Internet and eBay for quite sometime and have never seen on up for sale. Do you have any additional information on the scope? Is that KOGAS on the ball head? How are the optics, the star test etc.?

Thanks for sharing,
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 02:19 PM

It is GOTO KOGAKU. Someone will need to verify, but I believe Nippon Kogaku (now Nikon) made the lenses for Goto early on.

I posted a want ad on Astromart for ANY Goto telescope and got very little response. About 3 weeks later, the seller wrote to me with the usual story...its been in the closet, don't know too much about it. He then sent me some pictures and I jumped so high I surprised you all did not see me :jump:

Of course, he had no idea how to ship it. So, off it went to the UPS store for an astronomical shipping quote.

When it arrived, all was good. The case is going to take a lot of work. But, I think it deserves it.

Star test on both 60mm Goto's will be done tonight or tomorrow.

Steve

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 02:23 PM

GOTO astro spectroscopes are worth a couple of hundred dollars a pop these days if in good condition- if its the projection kind its probably worth even more. A nice find, above and beyond the scope itself.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 02:34 PM

Well, it looks unused. It came wrapped and best I can tell, it has never been used.

So, thank you all for the information. Now, next question...

How do I use it?

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:34 PM

How does the specroscope project an image? On a wall or piece of paper?
An demonstation would be really neat.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:42 PM

That mount looks just like the one Dick (from Orlando) has (had?):question:
http://www.cloudynig...ll/fpart/2/vc/1

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

Yes. I wrote him and let him know I would be making this post. His is for a 78mm and slightly different. I believe he may also have this unknown "spectroscope" item.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 07:12 PM

Nice looking scopes, excellent finds. :D By the way, I know what a #106 is, but what is a #451 if I might ask? :question:

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 07:17 PM

The #451 was a 60mm f15 Alt/AZ HyScore telescope from Goto. Rotating focuser, but not quite a solidly built.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 07:46 PM

Someone will need to verify, but I believe Nippon Kogaku (now Nikon) made the lenses for Goto early on.


My Pop reports that they did.

You were right in your earlier emails, Steve...these are great finds.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 08:00 PM

It is GOTO KOGAKU. Someone will need to verify, but I believe Nippon Kogaku (now Nikon) made the lenses for Goto early on.

Although this may be stretching it, its interesting how closely these logos resemble each other:

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 08:17 PM

Actually, not much of a stretch at all. Japan and Germany were economic partners in the years leading up to WWII. Virtually all of Japan's optical industry was imported from pre-war Germany...which is why their products were and still are so good. They had excellent teachers.

Another interesting tidbit, the 'Japanese' 0.965" standard EP size was actually the 'German' 0.965" standard first.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 08:35 PM

Here is a previous thread on a Goto spectroscope....not much like this one.

http://www.cloudynig...022/Main/311283

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 08:35 PM

Actually I pulled the Zeiss Tokyo logo from a thread (posted by dbledsoe) on "Emperor Hirohito's Nippon Kogaku (Nikon) Telescope" at
http://akiroom.com/r...ukai200603.html
Interesting reading. GOTO's have an excellent heritage!


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