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Airlines compatible with C8 OTA as carry-on?

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#1 GTom

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Posted 02 November 2024 - 08:29 AM

Trying to max out the travel telescope category, I found the c8 OTA does fit in SOME airlines cabin bag allowance, but not many. The critical bit is the OTA DIAMETER, that's 238mm, add a soft padded bag, 250 is the bare minimum we are looking for re shortest side. I am in Europe, my finding so far, c8 friendly airlines in theory:

- KLM: 55 x 35 x 25 cm (21.5 x 13.5 x 10 in)

- BA: 56 x 45 x 25cm

- Easyjet (premium carryon for added $$): 56 x 45 x 25cm

- Air France: 55 x 35 x 25 cm

- Jet2: 56 x 45  x 25 cm

- Aegean, Olympic: 56 x 45  x 25 cm

 

Unfortunately Ryanar, Lufthansa, Swiss are out.

 

Some offer "musical instrument" deals, cheaper than booking a full separate seat, I haven't investigated this part fully.



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Posted 02 November 2024 - 08:52 AM

Trying to max out the travel telescope category, I found the c8 OTA does fit in SOME airlines cabin bag allowance, but not many. The critical bit is the OTA DIAMETER, that's 238mm, add a soft padded bag, 250 is the bare minimum we are looking for re shortest side. I am in Europe, my finding so far, c8 friendly airlines in theory:

- KLM: 55 x 35 x 25 cm (21.5 x 13.5 x 10 in)

- BA: 56 x 45 x 25cm

- Easyjet (premium carryon for added $$): 56 x 45 x 25cm

- Air France: 55 x 35 x 25 cm

- Jet2: 56 x 45  x 25 cm

- Aegean, Olympic: 56 x 45  x 25 cm

 

Unfortunately Ryanar, Lufthansa, Swiss are out.

 

Some offer "musical instrument" deals, cheaper than booking a full separate seat, I haven't investigated this part fully.

Tui fly gave me the possibily to get my C8 OTA  in cabin. Bruxelles Santo Domingo


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Posted 02 November 2024 - 09:13 AM

Hello GTom,

It will certainly be beneficial to check the carry on rules both ways. I do admire you going for max aperture. My carry on scope kit is a 76mm and the tripod rides down under or a pair of binos. I'm a piano player so the musical instrument deals certainly don't apply to me LOL...but I have friends that purchase a ticket for an adjoining seat for their guitar or saxophone. 

 

HAPPY SKIES AND KEEP LOOKING UP Jethro


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Posted 02 November 2024 - 10:28 AM

Hello GTom,

It will certainly be beneficial to check the carry on rules both ways. I do admire you going for max aperture. My carry on scope kit is a 76mm and the tripod rides down under or a pair of binos. I'm a piano player so the musical instrument deals certainly don't apply to me LOL...but I have friends that purchase a ticket for an adjoining seat for their guitar or saxophone. 

 

HAPPY SKIES AND KEEP LOOKING UP Jethro

The largest one I have actually flewn was a 90/600 apo, I am just investigating the c8. Unfortunately my upcoming trip to La Palma is booked trough Ryanair, that's a no-go, but easyjet is an option for upcoming trips.


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Posted 02 November 2024 - 11:08 AM

I once took a TV 102i with TV Gibraltar mount to Australia from the US.

 

the scope was wrapped in bubble wrap and clothes and 

put in a full size suitcase.

 

The mount with a set of shorter legs I made went in a second suitcase.

 

I carried my eyepieces in carry on.

 

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Posted 02 November 2024 - 11:09 PM

Largest CAT I have flown with is my 150mm Mak. C6 would be fine as well. As you are discovering a C8 is just a bit too big for almost all airlines’ carry-on allowance.
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Posted 03 November 2024 - 04:51 AM

What I've heard not even an eyeglass is Ryanair compatible anymore
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Posted 03 November 2024 - 10:51 AM

Largest CAT I have flown with is my 150mm Mak. C6 would be fine as well. As you are discovering a C8 is just a bit too big for almost all airlines’ carry-on allowance.

Yeah. I think I'll stick to the 8, as it is really a step up from the 6 (see baffle diameter) and the OTA has the practical portability (weight, length) of a short tube 4" APO, i.e. the last perfectly old-age portable unit. Hopefully the c8 friendly airlines will stay around at least until we can move to a less cloudy part of the world.

 

Also, the thought of adding a Hyperstar kit (or actually buying a c8 already bundled with one) doesn't sound entirely strange to me. Though c6 hyperstar does exist, I'd prefer the 400mm FL over 300, not to mention the significant difference in central obstruction percentage with a given camera (got a Touptek/Altair 533M).


Edited by GTom, 03 November 2024 - 11:01 AM.

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Posted 03 November 2024 - 12:56 PM

Just pick the right flight. Flew from Seattle > Denver > Houston on one plane and it had 3 passangers not including crew. Lots of room. If only they were that good. I was coming back from a month in AK and had extra checked luggage, yes they charged extra for it.


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Posted 06 November 2024 - 09:01 AM

Getting a scope through as carry on isn't about the amount of space in the cabin (although with an empty flight and nice cabin crew just about anything is possible) ... the problem is getting past the carry on size requirements at the gate. Those chrome tubed sizing tools so prevalent with the airlines (and the sign over it something like  "Your carry on luggage must fit here") and extra vigilant gate staff are your enemy when pushing the limits.

 

Within North America the smallest dimension was (and generally still is) 9"/23cm so a 6" scope (with it's 7" or so diameter OTA) and some soft padding is usually the largest aperture you can "legally" get on a regular mainline flight. A 7 or 8" scope with some padding is just about always over this smallest dimension - although a custom minimal truss tube 8" newtonian is possible. I also mention "mainline" because there is also the added problem of smaller regional airlines and their associated smaller aircraft that have smaller overhead bins and therefore even the 9" dimension may not be small enough (although most of the 50+ seat regional airliners have had upgraded interiors over the past 10 years and this has helped with carry on sizes). Still,it can a bit of crap shoot determining what aircraft type you will be on when there are multiple hops with multiple carriers.

 

I have at times (such as when being rerouted onto a smaller aircraft at the last minute) even resorted to removing my C6 from it's nylon soft case and bundling it with a sweater or small jacket to get it to fit ... and yeah I had to be extra vigilant when others were trying to get some last minute items stowed close by. In these full cabin circumstances a kind and understanding cabin crew is your savior here.

 

In general my guidelines for scope travel follow what many have already mentioned ...

 

- A simplified mount (shortest practical tripod) and accessories well packed in the largest checked suitcase available (and keep a scale handy when packing as it's very easy to bust that 50lb/22kg weight limit)

- A scope that is under that max 9" dimension and has flexible packaging to accommodate as many of those unforeseen cabin/personnel issues as practical. I also tend to pack my eyepieces and diagonal separately from the scope.

- Watching your gear like a hawk through the entire boarding process. Turning your back for even just a second will ensure that the big guy just now coming down the aisle will try and jam his hard shell carry on into a space much too small and currently occupied by your scope.

- Being as nice as you can be to the cabin crew no matter what is going on around you.


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