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#1 szg

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Posted 11 November 2024 - 12:45 PM

With 5 years in AP, I consider myself experienced lol.gif

 

However, I've never been fully satisfied with my SHO color processing and could use some help to improve it. I feel stuck and want to achieve better results. Please share any ideas or tips to help me improve my SHO processing. (I'm still using Photoshop only and I think I don't need PI for better color at this moment.)

 

Here is my recent processed image of M42. I think it looks dull, but I have no idea how to improve it.

If you'd like to make an example by this M42, here are stacked files... -> https://1drv.ms/f/s!...39s3ng?e=kPnPeb

 

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Edited by szg, 11 November 2024 - 08:03 PM.

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#2 Tapio

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Posted 11 November 2024 - 01:05 PM

Well, SHO palette is not 'natural', or it's very much personal, or it's very much different from broadband images.
I think your version is perfectly acceptable.
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Posted 11 November 2024 - 02:25 PM

It might help to know what you have in mind as a creative destination, since as Tapio says, the colors are up to you as the creator, in SHO. "Dull" is very subjective. And "natural" is entirely counter to the NORMAL processing used for SHO. Maybe show an example from someone else's image?



#4 David R.

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Posted 11 November 2024 - 03:50 PM

With 5 years in AP, I consider myself experienced

 

However, I've never been fully satisfied with my SHO color processing and could use some help to improve it. I feel stuck and want to achieve better results. Please share any ideas or tips to help me improve my SHO processing. (I'm still using Photoshop only and I think I don't need PI for better color at this moment.)

 

Here is my recent processed image of M42. I think it looks dull, but I have no idea how to improve it.

If you'd like to make an example by this M42, here are stacked files... -> https://1drv.ms/f/s!...39s3ng?e=kPnPeb

 

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I'm happy to have a go at it, but do you have the data in linear form by chance? These seem to be stretched already



#5 danny1976

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Posted 11 November 2024 - 04:38 PM

I don't think this object looks good in SHO. Typical SHO objects are North America nebula, Heart and Soul, California nebula ...


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#6 zveck

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Posted 11 November 2024 - 08:01 PM

Objects with SHO are art. They don't look that way to your naked eyes. Natural look is often boring and ugly to many. Being able to see and colorise the gas's make them look better to many, but it is art


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#7 terry59

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Posted 12 November 2024 - 05:30 AM

I've not processed this region in narrowband and would like to give it a go but the files are already stretched. Can you load linear files?

 

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#8 vroobel

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Posted 12 November 2024 - 11:37 AM

Objects with SHO are art. They don't look that way to your naked eyes. Natural look is often boring and ugly to many. Being able to see and colorise the gas's make them look better to many, but it is art

I love it! Thanks. 



#9 Oort Cloud

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Posted 12 November 2024 - 02:44 PM

If you want a more natural look, you could try something like this:

IC 434 SHLRGB 10h CN

What I did here was combine the H, S, & L masters (I left out O because there wasn't much there at all) into a synthetic luminance, and then processed it as an LRGB image. This allowed me to keep the natural colors (Hydrogen is actually pink, not red, due to the beta emission) while still enhancing the detail with the much more contrasty narrowband data.


Edited by Oort Cloud, 12 November 2024 - 02:45 PM.



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