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#51 Terra Nova

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Posted 23 November 2024 - 11:57 AM

Terra, I can totally see your circumstance that it has made the most sense for you. I know for me, I separate my scopes into different categories and I don't mind having functional show pieces that never see light (i.e. my 5" Mogey that has a fairly poor lens). And I rarely break out my many 60mm scopes because I have so many larger scopes that function better, but I love having them and setting them up every so often just to admire them. But I also have plenty of room, and the financial burden of so much equity in astronomy gear isn't consequential to our household finances.

Again, I want to make clear that my comments are purely subjective and apply only to me. I will state tho, that I have heard other before, make similar statements in this forum. I also again want to say that I judge no one. Everyone is different, and clearly there are two different kinds of folks who frequent this forum, those who count themselves primarily as observers, and those who are clearly collectors. There are also those who fall somewhere in the middle. I used to count myself in the middle, and now I identify primarily as an observer. There’s nothing wrong with that or anyone else’s preferences for that matter, as long as you say, it remains a healthy and positive experience. Speaking again from my own experience, I’ve had fifty or sixty telescopes in my lifetime, and never no more thirty. Even when I had that many, I wasn’t falling over them, they weren’t stacked in piles, and I wasn’t walking through narrow corridors of telescopes. However, it got to feel encumbering, it was burdensome to me. So I started cutting back, and I found that it made me feel better than when I was in the accumulating stage. I now feel like I’m down to a bare minimum that makes me comfortable and gives me options when deciding what I want to observe and how I want to observe it. As far as money wrapped up in telescopes, it’s never been a financial burden for me, but it is nice to free up funds for things I would rather have or do. 


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#52 Terra Nova

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Posted 23 November 2024 - 12:23 PM

How interesting. I enjoy tremendously seeing the old gems saved and restored, but I never had the gotta-get-it itch. I bought my classics because 1) they were ridiculously cheap 2) they are optically usually better than comparable modern items 3) they allow me to work on precision things using my hands, which I find extremely relaxing 4) I really do feel like I am saving a fine instrument from oblivion in a landfill.

 

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I grant you, the old Japanese long achromats perform better than their cheap, Chinese achromat successors. But if you have money to spend, this isn’t the case with everything coming out of China, (tho it’s an oft repeated myth in this forum).

 

And as far as the telescopes go, I feel like I have always traded up rather than down when I replaced a classic scope with a more modern one. I find the optics and the mechanic of modern doublet and triplet apos has superseded what I’ve gotten out of the classics in every way, and the boost in ergonomics and ease of transport and use can’t be overstated. I made the switch to Takahashi and TeleVue telescopes a number of years ago and never looked back. Those were earlier ‘late classic’ 1990s TeleVues (Genesis SDF and Pronto) and Taks (FC76 and FC60). This year those were replaced with AT 80mm and 90mm triplet apos and a TV60. They serve my purposes wonderfully. I don’t have high enough praise for the two ATs; the AT90CFT has a Strehl >0.95 and the same focal length as the TV SDF. It’s optics are the finest of any telescope I’ve ever owned. The AT80EDT has the same focal length as the Pronto, and optically, it’s performance is a league ahead of its predecessor; good enough to give the FC76 a run for it’s money at half it’s physical length and a 2” focuser! The focusers on both the two AT scopes are so much better than those on the two TVs they replaced. The TV60 is as good as a 60 gets and it’s half as long and less weight as the FC60, and it easily beats out the old Zeiss Telementor in every way. And all three are F6 and capable of very wide fields at low power. And just so much easier to store, carry around, or travel with. To me, it’s been a real boon. 
 

And I still have an observatory in a box! It’s not nearly as beautiful as the Questar, but the little SeeStar 50 ‘sees’ far deeper in urban, light polluted skies; its targets are so much easier to find, (it ‘finds’ them itself); and tho it’s not pretty to look at like the Questar was, it costs 1/5 as much!

 

There is much to be said for the new stuff in the marketplace these days. I guess I’ve just gotten with the times.


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Posted 23 November 2024 - 01:16 PM

I would go ahead and buy it.

If there was an interest in the first place it's still there smoldering and a special  telescope could

reignite the flame.

I'm sure the wonder and love of astronomy is there, we never loose that once exposed.  

 

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Posted 23 November 2024 - 03:40 PM

LMButtO (the common version was edited).  This is something I've thought about a handful of times already in this thread.  I have had so many people bury their face into one of my RV6 and take a BIG sniff of the tube. I have never seen so many smiles so big come off the tube. If their smile was any bigger then their head would flip back like a PEZ.  Then there is the exhale, the sigh, and the bedroom eyes. Seriously, it's great, so many many times. 

I might have a 64 RV but FL isn't practical from CO. 

Had a 64 Buick with a Fireball for a while in the 80's. 

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Posted 23 November 2024 - 04:04 PM

LMButtO (the common version was edited).  This is something I've thought about a handful of times already in this thread.  I have had so many people bury their face into one of my RV6 and take a BIG sniff of the tube. I have never seen so many smiles so big come off the tube. If their smile was any bigger then their head would flip back like a PEZ.  Then there is the exhale, the sigh, and the bedroom eyes. Seriously, it's great, so many many times. 

I might have a 64 RV but FL isn't practical from CO. 

Had a 64 Buick with a Fireball for a while in the 80's. 

I thought that smell on mine was from the paint! I kept wondering if the paint would ever dry, and if it was damaging the coatings. It only dawned on me when futzing with an old clock that had a phenolic case what the source was.

 

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Posted 23 November 2024 - 04:05 PM

Four years ago I got my dream telescope, the one I wanted for many years but couldn't afford when I was a kid and couldn't find as an adult. Finally it is here and it is used. I would have never bought the telescope as a static display. Don't get me wrong, it is a great display piece but it is so much better when it is doing what it is supposed to do, observe the heavens. 

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Posted 23 November 2024 - 04:41 PM

I thought that smell on mine was from the paint! I kept wondering if the paint would ever dry, and if it was damaging the coatings. It only dawned on me when futzing with an old clock that had a phenolic case what the source was.

 

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Parks tubes had the best smell ever mel. Like coke to a druggie.



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Posted 23 November 2024 - 07:20 PM

I'm proud of myself! I walked away from a $200 Oracle today! Don't think I didn't think about it tho. In the end tho I asked myself, Do I really need this?  Do I wan't to go back down the rabbit hole? Fortunately I answered both no! I had four fifties in my wallet too! And they're still there! ;)


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Posted 23 November 2024 - 10:27 PM

I'm proud of myself! I walked away from a $200 Oracle today! Don't think I didn't think about it tho. In the end tho I asked myself, Do I really need this?  Do I wan't to go back down the rabbit hole? Fortunately I answered both no! I had four fifties in my wallet too! And they're still there! wink.gif

Could have had $650 in your pocket instead. ;)

 

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Posted 24 November 2024 - 02:42 AM

Never be 200 in FL more like 2k.



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Posted 24 November 2024 - 09:35 AM

Could have had $650 in your pocket instead. wink.gif

 

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Yeah, I thought about that but I’m pretty much done with pack and ship. I’m over it, and I am out of most of my packing supplies now after the big sell-off. Plus, I really don’t feel good about buying to flip. I’ve never done it. It’s not my thing.


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Posted 24 November 2024 - 04:33 PM

Wow

When I started this thread, did not think would be too much interest, since it was a more hypothetical question. But I am loving all the responses, lets me know I am not the only one who thinks about things like this. A great group here.


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Posted 24 November 2024 - 06:10 PM

No - because my home is not a museum full of dust-collectors.

 

IMHO everyone should move house every 10 years to cull the junk, it forces you think more rationally about what you spend $$$ on, and why.


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Posted 24 November 2024 - 10:12 PM

OP     I say buy it and make yourself use it    just my humble view   wonder why or how one knows they will  never use it?  Never ever never? or mostly not used

But I am no example    I buy stuff for my future  for my retirement   for when I have more time later etc

 I play those old vintage guitars, drive the cars, I look through these telescopes but i do buy stuff for later on....

 

   Oracle ?   loved mine   would buy it back again   but  I miss the Vixen 80 Fluorite scope more    

   

      So I am     making that move    my everyday Fluorite in the 80mm grab and go size

 

         Need to have that Vixen 80 fl   back instead       

 

              As the drummer said to the  guitar player   "Stay tuned"

 

                     but I did love the Oracle


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Posted 25 November 2024 - 10:11 AM

I'm in a similar situation here. I don't like calling my gear a collection because I don't collect anything, each piece was bought for a reason and that reason didn't go away. Instead, I call it my inventory, which is more accurate. A significant factor was picking up gear while I had the income hoping to have time to work with them in retirement. I'm semi-retired now (working about half-time), so it's about time to put theory into practice. So far so good!

Opportunities to fulfill a dream or to scratch an itch don't come along too often. For the OP, even if you don't plan on using something, if seeing and touching it first hand brings you joy, then it sounds worthwhile. You can always return it to the wild when your curiosity is satisfied.

Enjoy the little things.
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Posted 25 November 2024 - 09:42 PM

Probably not.

 

However, I do have a Questar standard that almost never gets used and I still can't bear to part with it. So maybe... shrug.gif

 

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