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#1 mdowns

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 06:56 AM

Over the past three years, we have met a number of the 'classics' regulars with the monthly restart of the thread. Of those, we have also met several of the past and present mods, bringing us to the December restart. I asked current forum moderator, Jared about his start and interest in our hobby and he had this to share.

 

"I am just old enough to remember the launch of the last manned mission to the moon. I think that’s what started it all for me, seeing humans learning about and even trying to explore beyond our own planet at the age of four. Even then, I knew it was something special. Like many Apollo era babies, I have always been fascinated with space. My first view through a telescope was at the age of eight when a neighbor of mine—a science fiction writer who wrote under the name of James Tiptree Jr—bought a Celestron C8 for herself and showed me the planets. I have been looking through and taking photographs with telescopes every chance I get ever since.

 

For me, classics are mostly just the telescopes I grew up with, from that first C8 I got to look through in 1975 onwards. I eventually bought a 1970’s era C8 of my own complete with storage footlocker, guide scope, camera accessories, etc. I spent a ridiculous number of frustrating nights with that C8 trying to learn how to guide it well enough to get a sharp exposure with hypered Techpan film. Never had success, but I learned a lot--about both telescopes, photography, and dedication to craft. I still think that the autoguider is the single greatest invention ever for amateur astronomers. Today, I own or use four telescopes that could be considered classics. The oldest (to me--not to the maker) is my Celestron C5 pictured below. It was a wedding gift from my wife, and I have yet to find an SCT with better optics. It still gets routine use in the back yard when I just need a quick break from the terrestrial routine.

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In addition to the C5, I also have a late 90's Astro-Physics 130mm EDF that is used almost exclusively as a visual instrument these days, though I originally bought it for deep sky astrophotography. It rode on a Losmandy GM8 for years, but eventually got matched up with an AP Mach1 mount. You can see it here setup in front of Chabot Space and Science Center's largest dome.

 

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My other two classics aren't really mine, but I have the privilege of using them sometimes. They are the Alvan Clark and Sons 8" and the Brashear 20" at Chabot, named Leah and Rachel respectively. Leah is probably the most beautiful telescope I have ever gotten to use, all brass and lacquer. And the 20", Rachel... Wow. That's what comes to mind when someone says, "telescope", right? I have been a volunteer at Chabot since 2007 and you can still find me out on the observing deck on most clear Friday and Saturday evenings sharing my joy in exploring the night sky with whoever is willing to listen, even if these days I usually have more wires, batteries, cameras, and computers than could possibly be considered acceptable on this forum.

 

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The basic guideline for this thread is to list ads and auctions for classic/vintage scopes and associated accessories that others may be interested in. Do not post your own ads or the ads of your friends, this includes items you may be trying to sell for someone else. We request that you do not post photos from ads. If you must have some reference to a photo in the post, post a link to the photo, not the photo itself. Concentrate on the item for sale, and not the seller.

Please post a live link to the item.  Do not post "PM me for the link".Short discussions can take place about the items listed. When quoting a post, edit the quoted post to include only the part you are replying to. Do not post the entire ad text, or large blocks of it, without permission from the author.    Keep on topic,   please!

    Buyer Beware- CN is not responsible for any of the ads or auctions posted here or their content. There are some scams floating around, so do your homework before pursuing any ad.

                                                              and this note from the moderators

Let's remember everybody, there's no one place that has all the best-used scope finds just as there's no one place that never has anything. All have something. No need to beat subjective matter, whatever the topic, into the ground. For the sake of all of us who love the classic forum, please keep moving the thread forward. Remember that many of your fellow forum members are already vintage themselves. Instead of restating your opinions over and over, consider sharing something new, insightful, or otherwise constructive to the topic at hand.

 

 

 

 

 


 

#2 Senex Bibax

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 07:38 AM

"aviation law"?  I call BS on that. (from last month's thread, closed earlier this morning)

 

I'm not aware of any classic telescopes that contained mercury, lithium, oxidizers or radioactive substances (ignoring the minute traces of thorium in some lenses)


 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 08:12 AM

Hi Jared, whoever you are! (handle)

 

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#4 DouglasPaul

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 08:39 AM

(also from the last thread)

 

"Does anyone know if there are new shipping restrictions on telescopes/parts from Japan to outside the country?

 

I have a couple of Vixen parts I was looking at from Buyee and as of the last week or so they are marking anything I put in a save list as 'you cannot bid on this auction at the present time' and includes anything - any optics/telescopes, old vixen parts,"

 

 

I haven't received anything like that, Just bought something off Zen market this morning.


Edited by DouglasPaul, 01 December 2024 - 08:40 AM.

 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 10:03 AM

I'd like to add that occasionally there are truthful ads on some of these lists. A friend forwarded me an ad for an antique refractor. I had one identical to it already, but the price was so cheap I had to go look at it. I got a friend to go with me, the scope and mount were indeed as described, a 4" F15 refractor from 1800's with original mount. The seller said he had many people ask about it, but no one came and looked but me.

 

But you have to know your merchandise. There are a ton of brass "antique refractors" around, most "belonged to my grandfather" or great grandfather, and they just inherited it - that were made in India within the past 5 - 10 years.


 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 12:03 PM

Hi Jared, whoever you are! (handle)

 

-drl

Hi, deSitter!  I've been a long time moderator of this forum, long time amateur astronomer (both visual and photographic), and long-time member of CloudyNights. Pleasure to meet you. I try not to post too frequently on the forums I moderate since I feel the moderators should fade into the background as much as possible, thus you won't have seen me involved in too many conversations here. My active participation is reserved for fora where I am not a moderator smile.gif Still, I own and use some classic scopes and have a strong interest in the history of astronomy and astronomical telescopes. Like many of us here, I am old enough that some of that interest comes from telescopes that were "modern" and "new" in our youth.


 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 12:35 PM

So here's a 4 inch aportmaster yamamoto for someone with deep pockets:

 

https://astromart.co...r-108mm-f1600mm

 

It's 108mm with a focal length of 1600mm for $4000.  It includes the pedestal and mount.  Buyer is willing to ship from New Zealand.  (Where is Old Zealand, or just Zealand?)


 

#8 YourNotSirius

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 12:35 PM

ChasLX200 wrote: "Fly to FL and take what i got left for 10 cents on the $ gent. I want it all gone before i sell what is left of the house."

 

If my old man had wings and money he'd take you up on that offer. Unfortunately or, unfortunately, it depends upon your point of view, he has neither so, it won't happen. We have enough "STUFF" here as it is.

 

Chas, it's horrible that the storm did such damage to your house and all. It's definitely a major blow psychologically and financially. Hopefully, insurance will cover a lot of it. I think I speak for all of us when stating that I/we are very sorry that it happened. However, things can be replaced, most of the time, people cannot. YOU are still here and that counts the most when all is considered. As my old man would have yelled at us and his troops when things got tough, "Drink water and carry on!"

 

FWIW

 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 12:38 PM

Hi, deSitter!  I've been a long time moderator of this forum, long time amateur astronomer (both visual and photographic), and long-time member of CloudyNights. Pleasure to meet you. I try not to post too frequently on the forums I moderate since I feel the moderators should fade into the background as much as possible, thus you won't have seen me involved in too many conversations here. My active participation is reserved for fora where I am not a moderator smile.gif Still, I own and use some classic scopes and have a strong interest in the history of astronomy and astronomical telescopes. Like many of us here, I am old enough that some of that interest comes from telescopes that were "modern" and "new" in our youth.

Good deal. I could never be a mod, I like to run my keyboard too much :)

 

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#10 deSitter

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 12:39 PM

ChasLX200 wrote: "Fly to FL and take what i got left for 10 cents on the $ gent. I want it all gone before i sell what is left of the house."

 

If my old man had wings and money he'd take you up on that offer. Unfortunately or, unfortunately, it depends upon your point of view, he has neither so, it won't happen. We have enough "STUFF" here as it is.

 

Chas, it's horrible that the storm did such damage to your house and all. It's definitely a major blow psychologically and financially. Hopefully, insurance will cover a lot of it. I think I speak for all of us when stating that I/we are very sorry that it happened. However, things can be replaced, most of the time, people cannot. YOU are still here and that counts the most when all is considered. As my old man would have yelled at us and his troops when things got tough, "Drink water and carry on!"

 

FWIW

 

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Yeah Chas, just chill and enjoy Mars and Jupiter and the fire will return. It's only water.

 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 12:42 PM

Here's another "reflector" Teegul:

 

https://www.ebay.com...CXG4D5JJ5ZDWJPG


 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 12:55 PM

Here's another "reflector" Teegul:

 

https://www.ebay.com...CXG4D5JJ5ZDWJPG

Is this a Gregorian or does it have an internal image erector made from lenses?

 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 01:19 PM

https://www.ebay.com...:Bk9SR8zjoLXwZA

 

I own one of these. I wish I had another for parts (knobs). Mine came with several overlays including a mechanically driven one. I have the original manual as well. 


 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 03:20 PM

So here's a 4 inch aportmaster yamamoto for someone with deep pockets:

 

https://astromart.co...r-108mm-f1600mm

 

It's 108mm with a focal length of 1600mm for $4000.  It includes the pedestal and mount.  Buyer is willing to ship from New Zealand.  (Where is Old Zealand, or just Zealand?)

Mount looks small.


 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 03:23 PM

ChasLX200 wrote: "Fly to FL and take what i got left for 10 cents on the $ gent. I want it all gone before i sell what is left of the house."

 

If my old man had wings and money he'd take you up on that offer. Unfortunately or, unfortunately, it depends upon your point of view, he has neither so, it won't happen. We have enough "STUFF" here as it is.

 

Chas, it's horrible that the storm did such damage to your house and all. It's definitely a major blow psychologically and financially. Hopefully, insurance will cover a lot of it. I think I speak for all of us when stating that I/we are very sorry that it happened. However, things can be replaced, most of the time, people cannot. YOU are still here and that counts the most when all is considered. As my old man would have yelled at us and his troops when things got tough, "Drink water and carry on!"

 

FWIW

 

Q

No Ins at all on the house. Only real out of pocket for me was a dryer and washer and $500 in drywall.  I made out good on the Vette and someone gave me a fridge and stove. rest of the house and everything inside was old and worn out anyways.  Never lost a scope at least or mount. No way i would ask FEMA for money and have the Gov in my bizz telling me what to do.


Edited by CHASLX200, 01 December 2024 - 03:24 PM.

 

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 03:35 PM

https://www.ebay.com...:Bk9SR8zjoLXwZA

 

I own one of these. I wish I had another for parts (knobs). Mine came with several overlays including a mechanically driven one. I have the original manual as well. 

As I stated earlier, if we had the funds we may well be all over it. However, now that we are aware of the many missing parts the price seems a bit unrealistic. Half that is the very, very best we would offer since it would cost us less to drive from New Hampshire to pick it up and return than it would to ship it. Plus, the shipping services seem to now hire only Samsonite gorillas for drivers and delivery crews. Crating that properly is an artform in its own right and insurance is a suckers bet because the insurance company would find some way to weasel out of any claim. We have recent first hand experience with an insurance company who was fired because they found various escapes from our claims. We now have one that is far more honorable. The names are withheld to protect the guilty. They don't even deserve negative advertising. LOL

 

Anyway, I have doubts that this will get even one bid. I could be wrong but, I suspect that it's going to be there for a while. Unless, he takes a lower offer just to get out from under it. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

Also and to keep it legal on this little part of the Universe, here is a real odd duck and I do mean ODD DUCK! - We have never seen anything like this one.

 

It is a "Vintage Telescope "Alcor" USSR" according to the poster. The price is $699.00 plus $120 shipping from Ukraine! (Take notice of what I said above about shipping. LOL) Dad once had a TAL-2 and he is still POed at himself for selling it. It was the one used for the review in Sky and Telescope. He had no choice but to sell it at the time but, he still misses it to this day. This thing has him curious but, he's not biting on it, even slightly. (Thank the stars!)

 

The poster says this about it: "Check out this vintage Alcor telescope made in the USSR. This is a must-have for any collector or stargazer. Its unique design and history will definitely make it a conversation piece. This telescope is made by Alcor and is categorized under Telescopes, Binoculars & Telescopes, and Cameras & Photos. Don’t miss out on this rare addition to your collection.Conditions in the photo video. Issued in 1990. Inherited from my grandfather, I don’t know how to use it."

 

I translated that from its original Russian. (I may as well have translated War and Peace from its original Klingon! LOL)

 

There! Now we are back on track and in tune with the channel. lol

 

 

FWIW

 

Q

 

Addendum: https://tinyurl.com/nht6uej2 OUCH!  Antique Sky Chief II Deep Sky Telescope With Adjustable Base Wood Transom Tripod. US $330.63 or Best Offer.

 

"Incomplete setup...needs a new lens on the end ...not sure if all parts are in box or not ...all adjusting wheels are free and turn easily ...legs of Tripod extend easily and stay pinned at height no issues ....sold as a parts or restoration project only .....everything packs down into the wood box ....wood box has some veneer issues ....sold as found and pictured....."

 

He is calling this a reflector! LOL The objective cell and shade are shown in the box but, does it need a new lens? Enquiring minds want to know. lol

 

From what I can tell, he's got about $50 worth of parts and maybe another $20 for the box. MAX! What say you all?

 

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Edited by YourNotSirius, 01 December 2024 - 03:42 PM.

 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 07:57 AM


It is a "Vintage Telescope "Alcor" USSR" according to the poster. The price is $699.00 plus $120 shipping from Ukraine! (Take notice of what I said above about shipping. LOL) Dad once had a TAL-2 and he is still POed at himself for selling it. It was the one used for the review in Sky and Telescope. He had no choice but to sell it at the time but, he still misses it to this day. This thing has him curious but, he's not biting on it, even slightly. (Thank the stars!)

 

The poster says this about it: "Check out this vintage Alcor telescope made in the USSR. This is a must-have for any collector or stargazer. Its unique design and history will definitely make it a conversation piece. This telescope is made by Alcor and is categorized under Telescopes, Binoculars & Telescopes, and Cameras & Photos. Don’t miss out on this rare addition to your collection.Conditions in the photo video. Issued in 1990. Inherited from my grandfather, I don’t know how to use it."

 

I translated that from its original Russian. (I may as well have translated War and Peace from its original Klingon! LOL)


 

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I didn't see a link, and went and found it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/405393081881
lists to me asking $599 but shipping is $250.


 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 09:40 AM

Mount looks small.

No Chas, it's not "small" - that is the Classics holy grail 108mm SYW scope and I'm amazed that guy is selling it. It was his pride and joy. I cannot remember his handle but I wish him well. If you love classics and have mad money, that's your ticket.

 

https://www.cloudyni...1600-mm-review/

 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 10:29 AM

I didn't see a link, and went and found it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/405393081881
lists to me asking $599 but shipping is $250.

He dropped the price by $100.00. It's definitely a unique piece. Still, coming from way over there it seems a bit risky. Someone will bite on it. I just hope it arrives to them not looking like it had been through a war. LOL

 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 11:56 AM

The Questar on SGW seems to have entered the wait and see mode until the auction gets close to the end…

https://shopgoodwill...item/216723679

It’s listed as a Standard, but is it a Duplex? I’m thought that mount marked it as a Duplex. The star map on the dew shield looks like a copy applied to a blue dew shield. Just wunder’n. Still a nice scope. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it go a bit higher before the auction closes.

Edited by jgraham, 02 December 2024 - 01:55 PM.

 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 01:50 PM

The Questar on SGW seems to have entered the wait and see mode until the auction gets close to the end…

 

https://shopgoodwill...item/216723679 

 

It’s listed as a Standard, but is it a Duplex? I’m thought that mount marked it as a Duplex. The star map on the dew shield looks like a copy applied to a blue dew shield. Just wunder’n. Still a nice scope. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it ge5 a bit higher before the auction closes.

No mention of the leather case or accessories either.


 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 03:28 PM

Duplex? Yes. Other stuff? I was told no.


 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 04:19 PM

Wild to see a Questar on SGW. I wonder how the scope found itself donated? 


 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 05:57 PM

Duplex? Yes. Other stuff? I was told no.

Then it's not worth $1774.19.  4 hours to go.


 

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 06:07 PM

Someone buy this satellite scope so I don't. it is the 816 not 815 just a typo

 https://www.cloudyni...cope-model-815/


 


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