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[kklei940]

So far, for me it's been:

 

17mm ES 92°

32mm 85° Masuyama

12mm ES 92°

[Deep13]

14mm Delos. It gives me the impression that I might fall in.

[Exnihilo]

I’d say it’s a good chance it’s the radian 3mm or Morph 4.5. But I just got an APM UFF 30mm, se we’ll wait and see. 

Edited by Exnihilo, 27 January 2025 - 09:09 PM.

[Starman1]

I had to think about this a bit.

It has changed a lot over the years.

So I have a few that qualify.

Tele Vue 22mm T4 Nagler

Tele Vue 17mm Ethos

Pentax 16.5mm XW85

Tele Vue 11mm Apollo 11

Tele Vue 10mm Ethos

Baader 14mm Morpheus

Baader 9mm Morpheus

APM 7mm XWA

 

These are all eyepieces that immersed me in the view and made me forget, at times, that I was looking through an eyepiece.

There are others, I'm sure, my memory is fuzzy because so many eyepieces have passed through my hands.

[HellsKitchen]

12.5mm Morpheus

 

Haven't tried the others yet

Edited by HellsKitchen, 29 January 2025 - 01:01 AM.

[Jeff Morgan]

I don't really think about "immersion", they all provide an immersive view on some level.  And I believe the immersive experience has a lot to do with the skies, the objects being used and the particular telescope, it's focal ratio, aperture, field correction etc.

 

 

There is a great deal of personal variance in this, so there are really no "right" answers.

 

Take for example, the T4 Nagler family. I have owned them all, two of them (12 & 17) at the same time. Within that group, to my eye the 17 was a "WOW!" whereas the 12 and 22 were just good eyepieces. One of the motivators for buying the 22 was to recapture the WOW! factor of the departed 17, but it did not happen. Maybe I should have just rebought the 17 

 

Another example - Brandons. A scaled design, absolutely identical in each focal length. Yet in terms of immersion, the 24 and higher were striking, the 16 and shorter were just good eyepieces. 

[CowTipton]

- 20mm XWA 100°

- 17.5mm Morpheus

- 30mm 70° UFF

 

All three of these provide a wide, well-corrected view where you can get a nice image of just about any object in the center as well as nice pinpoint background stars providing an "immersive" experience.

I love seeing detail on Jupiter by using as short of a focal length eyepiece as the seeing will allow.  But, I also love seeing Jupiter and it's moons sticking out amongst a field of background stars.  It's a very different perspective, almost 3D.

 

All three also excel on viewing a nearly full moon.  My jaw dropped the first time I viewed it with the 30mm UFF.  Just a crazy amount of clarity and sharpness showing mountains and crater edges.

[Procyon]

25mm ES 100

20mm 100 TS Optics

17mm 102 Nikon HW

12mm ES 92

 

Previously owned:

 

22 and 26mm Naglers

 

For 1.25"

TV Delos and Pentax XW

Edited by Procyon, 29 January 2025 - 06:22 PM.

[25585]

My very first immersive eyepiece, and its also my very first eyepiece, is a Vixen 36.4mm fit Erfle 32mm. The second was a 13T1 Nagler. I still have the Vixen, and now my 12.5mm Docter Noblex, 12.5mm Morpheus, & 12mm ES92 replace the 13mm.

[f18dad]

30mm APM UFF
22mm TV4
17.5mm Morpheus
12.5mm Nikon NAV-HW

[carver2011]

My Edmund 28mm RKE

[SandyHouTex]

I have a Zeiss Diascope eyepiece, fixed focal length of 12.7mm that is just fantastic.  The colors are SO saturated it's mesmerizing.  The Doctor/Noblex 12.5mm is VERY similar.

[scout]

I get immersed in almost all of my eyepieces. Once I start concentrating on the object, the eyepiece usually disappears, even if it's not a wide AFOV. I don't obsess about the field stop like a lot of people seem to do. I just look at the object, not the eyepiece, and the outer field is in my periphery, slightly blurring away like with anything you look at in real life.

 

I do love my widefields, and my first look through my 28mm 82° UWA literally took my breath away. But unless I'm panning around the sky or looking at a big star cluster, the initial wow of seeing a big FOV soon wears off as I concentrate on the object I'm looking at. It's just me and the object, and I'm immersed in the view.

[cbowlsby]

Any of my Morpheuses but especially the 9mm just draw me into the stars...

 

I want to try my Delites decloaked but have not had the chance yet

 

I had a 4.7mm and 6mm Ethos for a while and those were really wide.  I just find my Morpheuses more comfortable and I couldn't afford to keep both.

[nof]

Last night it would have been the 12mm ES92 and the linear binoviewer with 20mm ES52 eyepieces. I was floating between M82 and M81 for quite some time

[fjjoachim]

Sky Rover 30mm UFF. 

[Granite Glasser]

(My) Most "immersive" eyepieces:  TeleVue Naglers!

 

...and to only a slightly lesser degree, the 24mm TV Panoptic!

[rowdy388]

Most immersive: ES 17mm 92

 

very immersive: Masuyama 32mm 85, Morpheus 9mm

 

immersive in a different way: ES 9mm 120  ...You can fall into the view under the right conditions

[Lucky 777]

I don't do a lot of visual so probably don't know the difference between good and exceptional, but have an Orion MegaView 28mm 82 which is a rebranded William Uwan that looked very good. 

 

Also have an Orion 16mm 82 MegaView and Williams Optics Uwan 7mm 82 that are new in the box.  I bought them and quickly got interested in other things.  Probably need to send them to a new home.

[PJBilotta]

I'll toss a recommendation in here for the 14mm Delos. I've been using it quite a bit the past few weeks, and it just seems to get out of the way. Nice, pleasing wide-enough field, very comfy eye relief, and an easy-to-aquire and very stable exit pupil. These characteristics and it's exceptional sharpness, contrast and correction make it simply effortless to observe through.

What makes this Delos stand out for me is the fact that 14mm is a particularly challenging focal length in longer eye relief eyepieces. The XW has significant field curvature, and the Morpheus has some as well. The LHD comes only in 2" and is huge. The Nikon SW come very close in overall performance, but is by no means immersive.

After trying and comparing them all, the Delos is just so "easy" that you just see and feel the view.

[Epick Crom]

The 9mm and 3.5mm Sky Rover XWA's that I own provide a good immersive experience,  but my most immersive eyepiece is my 17mm Ethos. 

 

Wow, I lose track of time observing through it with my 10 inch dob. It makes you feel like you are out there in space floating amongst the star fields! I go entire sessions with only it in the focuser. 

 

Clear Skies 

Joe

[Steve Millet]

For me, my most immersive experience is using a 22mm Panoptic in my TSA 102 at a dark site. It is my favourite way to observe the Double Cluster and M42. Each star is so sharp and the Double Cluster looks 3D.

 

Steve

Edited by Steve Millet, 02 February 2025 - 08:26 AM.

[Sarkikos]

I do nearly all my deep sky star gazing with eyepieces that provide 80 degree to 110 degree AFoVs.  I do some with Panoptics and such..  Most of the eyepieces have been mentioned already in the this thread by someone.  

 

I don't really think about "immersion", they all provide an immersive view on some level.  And I believe the immersive experience has a lot to do with the skies, the objects being used and the particular telescope, it's focal ratio, aperture, field correction etc.

 

Jon

"And I believe the immersive experience has a lot to do with the skies, the objects being used and the particular telescope, it's focal ratio, aperture, field correction etc."

 

... and the observer!   This term is so subjective, that I mostly ignore it when I see it in a description of an eyepiece.   I also ignore "engaging."   If someone says an eyepiece is "immersive and engaging," this is my basic response:    

 

Not looking to start a fight, but this is my honest, good faith opinion.   No fights at the dance!

 

"It's got a good beat and you can dance to it."  Yeah, that's pretty much what "immersive and engaging" means to me.  

 

Mike

Edited by Sarkikos, 02 February 2025 - 08:56 AM.

[TicoWiko]

think that would be my 100 XWA's since I have to get my eyeball right up in there and than bam! sea of stars

morphs close second but since eye relief is so far up I see my surroundings sometimes at home ( I like to observe cups down for that slim edge) but at dark skies it's not an issue since it's darker around me.

A man of impeccable taste ! I went for the XWAs for the same reason. Tight eye relief is fantastic for both easier eye placement and helping you shut out everything else. With an ultra wide EP like the XWAs, it means all you see is stars and space.

I hope I'll never need glasses 😅

[JeremySh]

"And I believe the immersive experience has a lot to do with the skies, the objects being used and the particular telescope, it's focal ratio, aperture, field correction etc."

 

... and the observer!   This term is so subjective, that I mostly ignore it when I see it in a description of an eyepiece.   I also ignore "engaging."   If someone says an eyepiece is "immersive and engaging," this is my basic response:    

 

Not looking to start a fight, but this is my honest, good faith opinion.   No fights at the dance!

 

"It's got a good beat and you can dance to it."  Yeah, that's pretty much what "immersive and engaging" means to me.  

 

Mike

I have a similar reaction when I read about “finicky exit pupils”.