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Is there a tool available which can help me choose a Telescope ?

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#26 JoeFaz

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Posted 19 February 2025 - 08:53 AM

One of the difficulties in answering this question, in my opinion, is that it can be very difficult for someone with even a modest level of experience (such as myself) to recall how difficult answering some "basic" questions is for someone with no experience (I'm assuming this is the case for you, uscpriya, my apologies if that isn't the case). "What do you want to look at with it?" is a perfectly reasonable question, and ideally it's a top concern, but if you've never looked through a telescope, then even you aren't really in a great position to answer this question. Some of the things I most enjoy observing are things that I assumed at first I wouldn't enjoy at all (Sun, double stars, variable stars) and I never would have guessed that I would prefer binoculars over telescopes most of the time (though I do love using my telescopes, especially for certain classes of objects where binos don't cut it). The objects I assumed I would want to look at the most when I first started, planets and galaxies, are some of my less observed objects now.

 

That being said, I think that for a complete beginner, you can never hope to "get it completely right" on the first piece of gear you buy. You might get lucky, but more likely than not you'll at least want something else in addition to it later on, or you might choose to simply replace it. That assumes, of course, that you enjoy astronomy and don't decide that it isn't for you.

 

So.... where do you start if all you really know about what you want is that there's a lot you don't know yet about what you want? I'd say that first you shouldn't spend too much money, because you don't know yet that you'll actually want to stick with it. At the same time, you don't want to go too cheap, because your initial experience shouldn't be doomed from the start. Secondly, you should get something versatile, that allows you to explore your options. Starting out with a hydrogen-alpha solar telescope, for example, would just be weird because there is so much to see that you can't possibly see with that scope (i.e., everything that isn't the sun).

 

I started out with a 6" dob. That was a great choice for me. It was enough to observe all of the Messier objects from my side yard (I live in the mountains and the nearest cities are quite small to tiny, so you may not be as fortunate in that regard?), and is a good lunar, planetary, and double star scope. About the only thing I couldn't do with it was observe the sun (although all I would've needed was a solar filter, of course). I do think that an 8" dob is a better choice for a beginner though, since you get more for not too much more money or weight.

 

Another reasonable alternative is to start out with a binocular instead. Even a modest pair will begin to show you what it's possible to see with optical aid and for some objects will actually provide a better view that you could ever get with a telescope anyway. "Which binocular?" is a tougher question. If you consider this route, I would make a separate post in the Binocular Forum, where you'll get a lot of good answers.

 

Hopefully this helps, and welcome to CN and astronomy! welcome.gif


Edited by JoeFaz, 19 February 2025 - 08:58 AM.

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#27 PKDfan

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Posted 19 February 2025 - 11:03 AM


An aspect that hasn't been talked about in everyone extremely WISE contributions is that really its know thyself as Joe above talks about.

So when you finally make that big dollar investment its getting too excited and going overly large aperture as there is a BIG difference between say a 4inch refractor and a six inch one which BTW a reflector just laughs at that limitation.

So say you go 12-14 inch Dob when 10inch is probably more useable quicker to cool and more manageable as -- it ALL -- depends upon what size you want to deal -AFTER- the night is over.

Your tired cold a bit fatigued and maybe a bit clumsy with cold hands so which do you want to deal with ?
A light say under 10pound refractor or a 25-30 pound long awkward & very EXPENSIVE piece of glass ?
Or You've went really big and got a 25" monster that weighs alot- This is where the tinkerer makes themselves known.

Hint observatory.

Finally there is ALOT to be said for a one hand Grab and Go telescope already mounted and ready for instant use vrs a four round tripper and five minutes later your finally ready to observe one.

FWIW for a pretty competent and complete astro kit i have five pairs of binoculars from 6 to 15 power and all under 50mm including a vintage 7-15X×35mm.

My 3 scopes include a vintage zoom 15 to 60X monster 60mm 'the Discover' by Bausch & Lomb & two apochromats 62mm & 100mm (evolux & evostar) with two mounting systems that i can use either with, an EQ (EQM-35) and alt az AzGTi.
And nearly a dozen different tripods of varying height for different terrestrial uses and lastly a dozen pieces of extremely well thought out focal lengths with high efficacy of view quality and two optical amplifiers 2X Barlow & 5X PowerMate.

No reflector just yet but a 14-16" F/3 by a master optician OR i tinker with grinding my own glass starting with a 6inch but who knows ??

Skies the limit !



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#28 rfcooley

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Posted 19 February 2025 - 03:07 PM

I am feeling overwhelmed by the choices when buying a new telescope. How do you decide which one is best for your needs, especially if you're new to astronomy or looking to upgrade?

 

Find a local club.

  • Here you will be able to look through other telescope designs. Very valuable when trying to decide what to get.
  • Talk to others that traveled the same path. Very valuable to hear of others experiences.
  • Have a wealth of information and experiences at hand.
  • It is more fun when you are surrounded (physically) with others when observing. It is a myth that any of us learned our observing by sitting under the stars all by ourselves. We all had mentors at some time.
  • Don't be in a hurry to purchase any telescope. Until you have an idea of what your focus at this time may be. It will change as you progress. Many of us started with one telescope and found out it wasn't quite what we expected, or we just out grew what we had.

In the mean time learn the sky.

  • So you know approximately where those objects are.
  • A couple of good books. "Turn Left at Orion." by Consolmagno and Davis;   "Star Ware" by Philip Harrington are ones that I think are particularly useful. Others here on CN will have other books they find particularly useful. Spend sometime at a library or bookstore and look around.
  • If you need to purchase something buy a pair of good binoculars and start exploring.
  • There is no such thing as a telescope that does everything well. That is why many of us have more than one telescope. Those that have only one is because we discovered what we were most interested and purchased accordingly.

Equipment

  • Buy a good quality telescope. Whether new or used. If looking for a used telescope a local club will have people that know what to look for and can help you make a good purchase. Members may have telescopes they are selling that have been used and you get a chance to "try before you buy" Always a plus. The owner can also tell you what the telescope was best at observing. Why they want to buy another scope or are they just trimming their collection of telescopes that don't used much anymore. If they held on to them for awhile, chances are the telescopes are in good shape and work well.
  • Do not go cheap on a mount. Buy a mount that is more than you think you need because eventually you will need it.  Telescope will come and go but a good mount will out last them all. Many of us have purchased mounts that were more expensive than the telescopes we put on them. Very few ever regret that decision.
  • Eyepieces(Ep) are very subjective matter. What looks great to someone else may not look so great to you. Some people only want the best of the best and are willing to pay for it. Others of us know what the best of the best is and have used them, but ask the question is our experience worth several hundred dollars more? I have on occasion purchased high end Eps only to discover I didn't like them as well as the 3 far less expensive Eps that I enjoy most often.

In all of this there are a few cautions and some timely advice I have to offer.

  • Beware of Analysis Paralysis.
  • Beware of the telescope rabbit hole.
  • Beware of the eyepiece rabbit hole.
  • Beware of the less expensive mount.
  • Beware of what you think you want. Know what you really want. Accept that both of these will change throughout the journey.
  • The Cosmos has been there for billions of years and will most likely be there for another billion years. You are not going to miss anything by spending some time doing homework.
  • Consider your options. If you can't figure out what you want then it is most likely because you don't know what you want. This can be remedied by attending a local club and/or star parties and ask questions. Don't be afraid to let others know that you are new to the hobby in these settings. We all started somewhere. Somewhere we made good decisions. Somewhere we made iffy decisions. Somewhere we made awful decisions. Those of us that have been in this hobby know this well and are generally always willing to share our experiences. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here on these forums.

 

Outreaching and Teaching for those that are Seeking,

 

Clear Skies, Never Lose the Wonder

 

RF


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#29 39.1N84.5W

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Posted 21 February 2025 - 10:24 AM

Before you spend ANY money... go to a star party/astronomy outreach event hosted by a local astronomy club.
You will save hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
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Posted 21 February 2025 - 04:09 PM

Whatever telescope you choose, it's important to not have unrealistic expectations of its performance.  With a few exceptions, celestial objects will not resemble competent images of those objects.

 

For example, many novices are surprised at the way the planets appear through a telescope, even a rather large one.  The Astronomical League's graphic at https://www.astrolea...copes85x-11.pdf illustrates just how small the bright planets are in angular size compared to the Moon.


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