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[Mcloud]

I'm told the image enhancement is amazing even on the old Collins but are they still going to be green screen! Also if the focal length is low can they be used in monster dobsonians 20 inches and over!? I can't imagine the possibilities. It almost makes me hesitate to buy anything over 4 inches because I do believe these are probably the future. Especially since light pollution keeps getting worse.

[SeattleScott]

Color corrected? Color, yes. Natural color? Not necessarily, especially if a filter is used.

[JamesMStephens]

Do you have any particular model(s) in mind?

[rgk901]

night vision is analog not electronic and best is grayscale with thin film white phosphorus

only electronic eyepiece is just being released.. and of course it's using a camera and yes full color..

https://pegasusastro...ducts/smarteye/

Edited by rgk901, 14 March 2025 - 10:06 AM.

[andriy_melnykov]

I'm told the image enhancement is amazing even on the old Collins but are they still going to be green screen! Also if the focal length is low can they be used in monster dobsonians 20 inches and over!? I can't imagine the possibilities. It almost makes me hesitate to buy anything over 4 inches because I do believe these are probably the future. Especially since light pollution keeps getting worse.

Hi, what do you mean, electronic eyepieces doing practically EAA, or night vision?

And what do you mean as color corrected?

[BrentKnight]

While I can see devices like the Pegasus Astro SmartEye being used by current large Dob owners, I can't see much of a market for buying a large Dob just to use one.

 

Some folks who actually use Dobs for EAA could comment further, but I think its still a challenge using these big scopes for EAA.  And while there could be a speed difference, I think smaller refractors and SCTs on dedicated EQ mounts can show a lot, and a lot easier than a Dob. 

 

I also can't get my head around the need for an "eyepiece" view when a capture will still be better on a large 4K PC screen viewed from inside the house.  Personally, when I want a visual view I will use normal eyepieces.

[MarMax]

To add to Brent's comment, I mostly gave up visual observing about two years ago. My reasons include the less than satisfying input due to my vision and the awkward positions you need to endure to properly position your eye at an eyepiece. Switching to EAA and astro cameras completely satisfied my needs.

 

It's likely that many folks migrate to EAA for similar reasons. So there is no desire for an eyepiece camera since astro cameras can be viewed on larger and better screens, controlled with better software and produce better results.

 

I know this is not what you asked, but your question is in the EAA forum. I would think that visual observers are the potential market for electronic eyepieces, not the majority of those doing EAA.

 

The Pegasus linked above should be what you refer to as "color corrected". As color corrected as the control software allows.

[BrentKnight]

To add to Brent's comment, I mostly gave up visual observing about two years ago. My reasons include the less than satisfying input due to my vision and the awkward positions you need to endure to properly position your eye at an eyepiece. Switching to EAA and astro cameras completely satisfied my needs.

 

It's likely that many folks migrate to EAA for similar reasons. So there is no desire for an eyepiece camera since astro cameras can be viewed on larger and better screens, controlled with better software and produce better results.

 

I know this is not what you asked, but your question is in the EAA forum. I would think that visual observers are the potential market for electronic eyepieces, not the majority of those doing EAA.

 

The Pegasus linked above should be what you refer to as "color corrected". As color corrected as the control software allows.

I agree with you that the market for electronic eyepieces includes mostly visual folks who want to get a better view.  But as soon as one of these devices is put into the focuser (replacing a traditional eyepiece) it becomes EAA - and perhaps more true to the EAA spirit than the folks who do their observing from inside the house.

[Mcloud]

Thanks everyone yes I was referring to the Pegasus and should have posted in a different forum. I have ABSOLUTELY no interest in doing my observing on a computer screen indoors. I was hoping we were at the point where it was kinda going to be an on off switch, flip it in for deep sky and a 4 inch Refractor becomes a 12 inch Refractor right at the eyepiece. Like I said to each their own but smart telescope and remote viewing, I'd rather watch a movie.

[BrentKnight]

Thanks everyone yes I was referring to the Pegasus and should have posted in a different forum. I have ABSOLUTELY no interest in doing my observing on a computer screen indoors. I was hoping we were at the point where it was kinda going to be an on off switch, flip it in for deep sky and a 4 inch Refractor becomes a 12 inch Refractor right at the eyepiece. Like I said to each their own but smart telescope and remote viewing, I'd rather watch a movie.

Nobody has actually used one of these devices.  They very well might meet your needs as the built-in screen is supposed to act just like an enhanced eyepiece.