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#1 LLEEGE

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Posted 05 April 2025 - 07:37 AM

AP has announced the new AP155CS refractor along with a new AP1150GTO Mount!
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Posted 05 April 2025 - 07:40 AM

And don’t forget the AP190 CS f/6! Very interesting and I wonder how much they will cost.


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 07:41 AM

hell yeah I'm in.


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 09:04 AM

Amazing specs!  Congrats to AP, the bar has been reset on apo refractors.  Short f-ratio, narrow air spaces and lens perfection waytogo.gif

 

I don't like short f-ratio, but it will make these two scopes useable on smaller mounts and tripods.  F/6 and this type of performance is ridiculous!  These two scopes appear to be the crowning achievement of a long career of breaking through barriers of refractor performance bow.gif

 

And a 190mm for only 34 pounds?  There are 152's that weigh nearly that much.


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 09:33 AM

Amazing design specs - and in contrast to many of the fairy tales often published by refractor manufacturers you can rest assured they will be met. If at all possible, I will own one. Since I will image remote in the future I will want 2 (not saying I can afford that, of course).
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Posted 05 April 2025 - 09:37 AM

>>The 155mm CS is not available for ordering and there is currently no available notification list.

 

So it took me about 30 minutes to decide I want one lol.gif


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 09:39 AM

There are a bunch of us on the notification list from 25 years ago.  I hope they will be making enough to get to my name at some point.


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 09:49 AM

Looks amazing, I’m sure this will generate a long wait list. I’m sure there is some pre-existing list for the old 155 that will get first dibs etc… maybe AP has the ability to fill the demand but I’m not hopeful I’d get an opportunity to get my hands on one anytime soon.

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Posted 05 April 2025 - 10:36 AM

Just got the email form  A-P.

 

The Astro-Physics 155 Starfire f/6 CS looks like an amazing new scope for imagers, along with the new 190 CS.



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Posted 05 April 2025 - 10:43 AM

And don’t forget the AP190 CS f/6! Very interesting and I wonder how much they will cost.

Much as my house.


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 11:19 AM

>>The 155mm CS is not available for ordering and there is currently no available notification list.

 

So it took me about 30 minutes to decide I want one lol.gif

So it took you 30 minutes to sell a kidney or a kid?

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Posted 05 April 2025 - 11:53 AM

I'd sign up if possible. Whether I could afford it these days is another story.



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Posted 05 April 2025 - 12:34 PM

I'm definitely interested, and hope everyone who wants one will eventually get one.



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Posted 05 April 2025 - 12:59 PM

Amazing specs!  Congrats to AP, the bar has been reset on apo refractors.  Short f-ratio, narrow air spaces and lens perfection waytogo.gif

 

I don't like short f-ratio, but it will make these two scopes useable on smaller mounts and tripods.  F/6 and this type of performance is ridiculous!  These two scopes appear to be the crowning achievement of a long career of breaking through barriers of refractor performance bow.gif

 

And a 190mm for only 34 pounds?  There are 152's that weigh nearly that much.

Would you see any differences at the eyepiece between these new CS scopes and the most recent model f/6.3-f/7.5 (155/160/175) EDFs?  The biggest difference will be the shorter focal lengths. These will be very expensive observing scopes.
 



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Posted 05 April 2025 - 01:28 PM

Old 155 list or new sign up lottery list?

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Posted 05 April 2025 - 01:30 PM

I'll sign up -  assuming a list is opened - whether or not my name comes up in my lifetime is another matter...

 

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Posted 05 April 2025 - 02:21 PM

Karen Christen told me today that they will use the existing list.


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 02:25 PM

Karen Christen told me today that they will use the existing list.

Yes, for the 155mm.  Any indication from the AP folks as to whether they intend to put the 190 into production and, if so, what their plan is for putting them into the hands of customers?



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Posted 05 April 2025 - 02:37 PM

Karen Christen told me today that they will use the existing list.

That puts it firmly out of reach for me.


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 02:54 PM

Karen Christen told me today that they will use the existing list.

oh well.  guess that puts it out of reach of us newcomers.

 

Mike


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 03:24 PM

The 155CS at NEAF with a nifty guide scope on top…grin.gif

 

And Roland showing it off, wearing his 1975 throwback duds.

 

 

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Posted 05 April 2025 - 05:29 PM

Would you see any differences at the eyepiece between these new CS scopes and the most recent model f/6.3-f/7.5 (155/160/175) EDFs?  The biggest difference will be the shorter focal lengths. These will be very expensive observing scopes.
 

I was thinking about that - the f/7.5 160EDF will probably reign supreme as the best 6-inch AP ever made....for viewing planets & DSO's.  Whatever advantage the new one has won't overcome the 5mm aperture bonus I would think.  The shorter f-ratio and optics will make the new one best for photorgraphers. 

 

Since I got a 160EDF off the old waiting list I have no hope there, used up my spot already, but maybe they'll add in some people from a new lottery too and the same w/ the 190mm.



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Posted 05 April 2025 - 06:30 PM

I was thinking about that - the f/7.5 160EDF will probably reign supreme as the best 6-inch AP ever made....for viewing planets & DSO's.  Whatever advantage the new one has won't overcome the 5mm aperture bonus I would think.  The shorter f-ratio and optics will make the new one best for photorgraphers. 

 

Since I got a 160EDF off the old waiting list I have no hope there, used up my spot already, but maybe they'll add in some people from a new lottery too and the same w/ the 190mm.

I don't know if the 160 was as good as this:

 

167mm fluorite AP scope.jpg


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 08:05 PM

oh well.  guess that puts it out of reach of us newcomers.

 

Mike

I'm somewhat optimistic about the chances for those of us that aren't on the old list.  Supposedly they were never going to make enough Stowaways either, but there have been multiple iterations of that lottery now and close to a thousand have been produced.  If these new scopes reach a quarter of that number, they will probably exhaust the old list.  There aren't that many people signing up to buy a $15,000+ telescope.

 

That's my optimistic take.


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Posted 05 April 2025 - 09:13 PM

I'm somewhat optimistic about the chances for those of us that aren't on the old list.  Supposedly they were never going to make enough Stowaways either, but there have been multiple iterations of that lottery now and close to a thousand have been produced.  If these new scopes reach a quarter of that number, they will probably exhaust the old list.  There aren't that many people signing up to buy a $15,000+ telescope.

 

That's my optimistic take.

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