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#1 JWolf_21

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Posted 18 April 2025 - 05:26 AM

Hi!

 

So, the title says it all... when should we clean our telescope?

 

I guess the first answer is "never!", and the most logical one... but, when should we consider there is too much dust to leave it sitting there?. Is there any kind of imaging test we can do to know it's time to clean? or it's a subjective feeling?

 

I'm asking because I use my telescope from a rural place with a bit of dust around, and after a year one can see a thin layer of particles... lol.gif I'm not worried yet but I might be soon, maybe after this summer...

 

Obviously I'm not talking about specific cases in which there might be "objects" attached to the lens/mirror, like fungus or so... but just general dust.

 

Thanks!


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Posted 18 April 2025 - 05:44 AM

A mirror might be [carefully] cleaned (rinsed off, basically) once a year if it’s being used in conditions with dust or maybe pollen, etc. Do some research on how first before proceeding with your first cleaning.

 

I haven’t cleaned the optics on my refractors ever (half a decade). Then again, I don’t even like cleaning eyepieces, and anyway, there’s no big coat of dust or anything, and I don’t go looking backwards into my telescope, shining light through the lenses inspecting for problems. That said, I am in a humid environment (about 5 months of continual very high humidity) and just had to throw away an old binocular and an old digital camera, both of which my my wife had stored away in a drawer, due to fungus, so fungus is a worry for me. That recent trashing of old optics has me thinking about such with my telescopes now…

 

I don’t have an SCT, so I’ll leave discussion of cleaning those to others, but I could see it perhaps being a more frequent issue with the corrector plate up front for those who don’t regularly use a dew shield. I’ll be interested to read what SCT owners say



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Posted 18 April 2025 - 05:54 AM

A mirror might be [carefully] cleaned (rinsed off, basically) once a year if it’s being used in conditions with dust or maybe pollen, etc. Do some research on how first before proceeding with your first cleaning.

I haven’t cleaned the optics on my refractors ever (half a decade). Then again, I don’t even like cleaning eyepieces, and anyway, there’s no big coat of dust or anything, and I don’t go looking backwards in my telescope, shining light through the lenses inspecting for problems. That said, I am in a humid environment (about 5 months of continual very high humidity) and just had to throw away an old binocular and an old digital camera, both of which my my wife had stored away in a drawer, due to fungus, so fungus is a worry for me. That recent trashing of old optics has me thinking about such with my telescopes now…

I don’t have an SCT, so I’ll leave discussion of cleaning those to others, but I could see it perhaps being a more frequent issue with the correct plate up front for those who don’t regularly use a dew shield. I’ll be interested to read what SCT owners say

We never hax to clean our scts, but we didnt image with them, which meant sessions were 2 hours when we had 2 hours to look, not 5 hours when we had half an hour to perform setup.

Cleaning for visual users just isnt the same as for regular users.

I also do not like to clean my EPs or optics, but with touchy feely children who's first words included "tedakop!" I've had to touch up a few favorites.

I dont want to think what an SCT could suffer here (in desert areas of isreal, jerusalem, negev) from just an hour outside. The fine particle dust is at times almost invisible except aftet it collects on your tube.
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#4 Sebastian_Sajaroff

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Posted 18 April 2025 - 06:09 AM

I clean my refractor, diagonal and eyepieces once a year with a Zeiss camera cleaning kit.

Mostly pollen, dust from a nearby cement industry and some soot from traffic.

After my observations, I bring my gear back inside and leave it uncovered for a couple of hours.

I lost a Televue eyepiece and 20x80 Bausch & Lomb binoculars to fungus.


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Posted 18 April 2025 - 06:36 AM

I forgot to mention that I have one of those hand air blowers and sometimes I use it to remove big particles (also from filters), but the layer of thin dust-polen remains... and that I have a Maksutov, but the question was more general, not only for Maks.

 

Thanks for your replies!



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Posted 18 April 2025 - 07:17 AM

I use a electric blower instead of the canned compressed air on my reflector to randomly blow off dust so it doesn't stick with extensive time passing and I keep it covered with lid and shower caps both ends then a large packing bag gets pulled over the whole telescope. If I need to colimnate then I remove the primary mirror and inspect and just blow off the dust, doing it more often keeps dust from sticking to the primary. Bagging it may be overkill but I haven't had to wash yet, plus removing the primary allows a close inspection which is difficult to do with 1200mm of tube, plus it makes me do a tight collimation just mark position so mirror goes back the same way it came out.


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Posted 18 April 2025 - 07:26 AM

....when should we clean our telescope?

 

....when should we consider there is too much dust to leave it sitting there?

 

I would strongly suggest you get a Giottos "Rocket Blaster". 

https://www.amazon.c...193&sr=8-3&th=1

 

Sounds like you will need to clean your optics, but after that, use the Rocket Blaster to puff-off dust from every session before putting your gear away. It will remove most of the dust without ever actually touching the optics. Make it part of your routine when you put things away.

 

And when cleaning optics, use the Blaster to blow off all that you can before getting to the part of cleaning where you touch the optics.

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EDIT: I see you posted while I was typing...


Edited by JOEinCO, 18 April 2025 - 07:28 AM.

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#8 TOMDEY

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Posted 18 April 2025 - 07:43 AM

Q: When should we clean our telescope?

 

A: Spring cleaning    Tom

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Posted 18 April 2025 - 07:46 AM

You've got a Mak.  I have a refractor and a newtonian.  

 

For the newtonian I did not clean it for over 25 years after I built it!  Sure the mirror had dust buildup over time, but it didn't appreciably affect the image.  And it's a scope that's just for visual use.  I cleaned the mirrors a couple years ago with distilled water, a tiny amount of dawn soap, and my bare hands.  They came out looking brand new.

 

For the refractor, it has a front objective lens just like your mak.  I see you're also an imager and that means we're leaving our instruments outside all night under the dew, pollen, bugs, and dust.  My refractor built up a film on the lens over the first couple years which I (carefully) removed using Zeiss optical wipes.  One wipe per wipe so as not to scratch the coating.  I did this procedure about a year ago and it still looks fairly clean.  Minor dust particles I'll wipe away using a lens brush.  Once the lens becomes coated again I'll repeat the wiping procedure.

 

For visual use cleaning is less critical.  For imaging I don't know for certain that the film on my refractor was affecting my images; I just cleaned it because I could see it.  If that makes sense.


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Posted 18 April 2025 - 11:23 AM

Welcome to C/N! flowerred.gif

 

For Dobs, this video explains the forum accepted best practice. "When" is a judgement call but I don't worry about a little dust. I never look at the primary mirror with a flashlight. It will just cause anxiety about cleaning. When the mirror looks like a dirty bathroom mirror then it's time IMO. I've used this method with good success waytogo.gif

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=9Y8xFnXFVGQ.


Edited by sevenofnine, 18 April 2025 - 01:05 PM.

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Posted 18 April 2025 - 12:54 PM

The short (and likely useless) answer is:  "Whenever it needs to be cleaned."

 

That being said, most of my telescope (and binocular) objectives have never needed to be cleaned.

 

Just over a week ago I showed my son the objectives of my two largest refractors -- a 10-year-old 6-inch achromat and a 30-year-old 5-inch apochromat.  The achromat's objective needed cleaned once, after a rubber retainer (split ring) came loose and deposited some residue on it.  The apochromat's objective has never (in 30 years of use) been cleaned.  I shined a light on those objectives to show my son the level of care (preventive maintenance) that I give them.  Even with a light shining on them, those objectives were spotless and dustless with absolutely no visible dust, water spots, finger oils, etc.  Those objectives are just as clean and pristine (if not more so) now as they were when I first received them as new instruments.  And I'm not exaggerating!

 

This (cleaning) is one of the many reasons that I tend to recommend relatively small, inexpensive, achromat refractors to beginners.  It's far better (my opinion) to learn how to care for a telescope by making all of one's mistakes on a relatively inexpensive, and relatively easy to care for telescope than to subject a more expensive telescope to harsh usage/cleanings.

 

My (not so secret) secret is preventive maintenance.  I don't permit dew nor frost to form on my objectives, and that goes a long way in eliminating water spots and the need for contact cleanings.  I'll generally use a few puffs from a bulb-blower on the objectives at the end of my observing sessions.  Other procedures are made use of to prevent moisture condensation on objectives when taking a telescope outside, when using it, when bringing it back in, and when storing it.

 

There are of course details involved in my preventive procedures, but I'm old, lazy, and have other things I need/want to get to today.  Those other details would be more about preventive maintenance, and not really about cleaning.  Besides, those details will differ somewhat with different telescopes, used under different environmental conditions, etc.  In other words, it's probably better for each person to work out the "best" procedures for their different situations -- coming back to using an inexpensive telescope to learn such things with.

 

But of course, the world we seem to live in (as a general rule) ignores this, and the typical recommendations dished out are to purchase the largest aperture, and/or highest quality telescope that one can afford and make use of.  Afterwards, we see postings on damaged, expensive telescopes by owners who thought they knew how to take care of their telescopes.  We also see many selling telescopes -- sometimes because of the damage that they had incurred.

 

Anyway, the short advice is to clean when cleaning is needed -- and that will of course have different meanings for different individuals; but for some it's possible to flat out avoid any contact cleanings forever, or until some unique situation arises that makes a cleaning necessary.

 

Note:  Just because I avoid contact cleanings (except in unavoidable situations, such as with that previously mentioned O-ring problem) does not mean that I permit my telescopes to become dusty, etc.  Again, I employ preventive measures to keep my telescope optics in pristine condition -- without the need for contact cleanings.  It's possible (at least for some of us) to maintain pristine optics without ever cleaning them.  And if one can do that, then I think that ought to be the preferred approach.  It's nice, when taking out and using a telescope, knowing that the optics in that telescope are as clean as they can possibly be -- each and every time the telescope is taken out to be used.


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Posted 18 April 2025 - 03:19 PM

if you're imagining I'd imagine it's not so important as your contrast is done via post/software but in visual a dirty surface will create scatter which will reduce contrast which will reduce what you can already barely see.

my newts are worst, probably because they are used in winter so dew forms and dries along with house dust/etc forming caked on white chowder ..

my smaller refractors fair much better.. unless I accidentally touch my lens

so if it's just loose dust... blow it away with the above rocket..or similar, just try resist blowing on it especially after eating lol

if you can see caked on film clean it as recommended for your scope type.

try not to touch, rub etc especially dry!
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