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#1 jragsdale

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 12:07 AM

I just picked up this older Unitron scope that had been in storage at the Western Oregon University for many years. The scope is in great condition but some of the rings have these deposits on them. At first I thought spider as they're fairly common on old things but there's no hint of spider webs and spider droppings are usually more consolidated and a mixture of white and black. I tried searching online but no luck, the only things suggested were silverfish and booklice, but I'm not familiar with either of those. Anyone else ever come across this? It's stubborn to clean off, but I can scrape the deposits off with a fingernail then clean any remaining residue with "Bird & Spider Stain Remover" that I picked up to try on this one.

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 01:02 AM

I think they might be insect egg sacs, at least the remainder (sort of a dry proteinaceous structure perhaps with some chitin).  It won't dissolve easily (well, maybe hot HCl for a couple hours will help).  Your approach is better though -- scrap them off with you finger nail then wipe the surface.


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Posted 29 April 2025 - 06:20 AM

They look like fly specks. When I had my 5" out in Idaho, flies were everywhere because of nearby ranches, and for some reason they were attracted to my scope. They left specks everywhere - it was particularly hard to remove them from the stainless steel rod of my tube balance system. (Really, you cannot believe the number of flies around in grassy lowlands out west..)

 

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 07:47 AM

Looks like it has lice


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Posted 29 April 2025 - 08:35 AM

If they were darker brown I'd call them cockroach poop.



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Posted 29 April 2025 - 08:37 AM

They look like fly specks. When I had my 5" out in Idaho, flies were everywhere because of nearby ranches, and for some reason they were attracted to my scope. They left specks everywhere - it was particularly hard to remove them from the stainless steel rod of my tube balance system. (Really, you cannot believe the number of flies around in grassy lowlands out west..)

 

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Yeah, I live in Idaho and I do know how bad the flys can be in some places so I'm familiar with their patterns. I considered flys but it's too consistent in size and much smaller than typical fly "spots".

 

I like the insect egg sac suggestion, that seems possible. They are in weird positions and in very small crevices so I assume the insect that did this was very small.



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Posted 29 April 2025 - 09:09 AM

I worked in a factory for a while that refurbished electronic items that had typically been used in unkempt housing conditions (for want of nicer way to say it). These units very often contained hoards of dead or living cockroaches. The circuit boards and insides of the plastic housings were covered with identical specks to those in your photo - in the tiniest of crevices even - though they tended to be dark brown or black in color. Other than the color, I would peg these as cockroach poop. I would know the smell anywhere. Look for small bean-shaped things that are much larger than the poop specks. Those are the egg cases that contain as many as 40 eggs.

 

If not cockroaches, these are the poop of a similar kind of bug  I can almost guarantee it. Maybe silverfish, but I'm not familiar with their poop.  


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Posted 29 April 2025 - 09:19 AM

I worked in a factory for a while that refurbished electronic items that had typically been used in unkempt housing conditions (for want of nicer way to say it). These units very often contained hoards of dead or living cockroaches. The circuit boards and insides of the plastic housings were covered with identical specks to those in your photo - in the tiniest of crevices even - though they tended to be dark brown or black in color. Other than the color, I would peg these as cockroach poop. I would know the smell anywhere. Look for small bean-shaped things that are much larger than the poop specks. Those are the egg cases that contain as many as 40 eggs.

 

If not cockroaches, these are the poop of a similar kind of bug  I can almost guarantee it. Maybe silverfish, but I'm not familiar with their poop.  

 

Yep, I have seen those in electric clocks, which get toasty warm. And that smell - turns my stomach even to imagine it. At first I thought it was stale machine oil...

 

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 09:33 AM

Yep, I have seen those in electric clocks, which get toasty warm. And that smell - turns my stomach even to imagine it. At first I thought it was stale machine oil...

 

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Yep. You got it!  smile.gif  The poop would tend to concentrate on power transistor or regulator heat sinks and microprocessors (the warmest parts).

 

That smell gets into your nose hairs and you smell it all day long until you wash your nostrils out.  [shudder]


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Posted 29 April 2025 - 09:46 AM

Glove and mask up with eye protection, not mice poop but why take the risk. Use an old credit card instead of fingernails

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 09:49 AM

Is the paint intact under the white things,, not powdery by any chance?

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 09:51 AM

Not cockroach poop which is oily brown splotches.

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 10:07 AM

i would use the dishwasher



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Posted 29 April 2025 - 10:18 AM

Is the paint intact under the white things,, not powdery by any chance?

Yeah, the paint is perfect underneath, otherwise I would suspect some kind of weird corrosion or mold/mildew.



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Posted 29 April 2025 - 09:48 PM

 (Really, you cannot believe the number of flies around in grassy lowlands out west..)

 

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Try the Oz bush in summer..! bigshock.gif  :rofl: 


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Posted 30 April 2025 - 08:32 AM

Try the Oz bush in summer..! bigshock.gif  rofl2.gif

Or northern Canada in summer for mosquitoes and black flies


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Posted 30 April 2025 - 08:33 AM

Yep, I have seen those in electric clocks, which get toasty warm. And that smell - turns my stomach even to imagine it. At first I thought it was stale machine oil...

 

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Even worse, when you pop bread in the toaster, and before it is half done a roach comes scurrying out from under it


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Posted 30 April 2025 - 12:24 PM

Or northern Canada in summer for mosquitoes and black flies

 

OH yeah - I've had the Minnesota version of this adventure.

 

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