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[Airstrike]

hi there chaps

 

today i got upto the latest version of siril version 1.4.0 beta1

 

and its not doing what i want it too ( maybe because its beta ?? )

 

anyways

 

on stretching ... if i use the general hyperbolic stretch transformation , which is all i ever use in my workflow,  as i am stretching the data everything is becoming blurry which i never had in the older version

but when i use the histogram transformation by clicking the 1 click stretch cog it all seems normal  whats that all about ???

also now when i want to do colour calibration the only option i have now is "colour calibration" but photometric colour calibration is now greyed out and when i hover over the greyed out option its saying WARNING  image must be plate solved / again ive never had this before and in older version its worked pretty flawless

 

should i just delete current siril and go back to older version and stick with that ???

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[matt_astro_tx]

To run color calibration (SPCC or PCC) you now have to plate solve the image first. To do that, go to tools menu, astronmetry and click plate solve.

[matt_astro_tx]

Not sure what you’re experiencing with stretch. I haven’t tried that yet. Can look tonight if no one else can help.

[Airstrike]

To run color calibration (SPCC or PCC) you now have to plate solve the image first. To do that, go to tools menu, astronmetry and click plate solve.

ahh cheers matt legend , strange that you have to go through all that where older versions was all in one sub menu 
 

yeh not sure what going on with the stretching though 

 

many thanks matt 

[Airstrike]

Not sure what you’re experiencing with stretch. I haven’t tried that yet. Can look tonight if no one else can help.

decided to drop back to version 1.2.6  , everything works 

[lock042]

We noticed no bug in the stretch.

[matt_astro_tx]

ahh cheers matt legend , strange that you have to go through all that where older versions was all in one sub menu

yeh not sure what going on with the stretching though

many thanks matt

Several of the new features require plate solving, so they moved that to its own function to eliminate redundancy. It doesn’t bother me. Like I said I’ll try the stretch later. Honest question: Are you sure your image’s focus isn’t soft to begin with?

[matt_astro_tx]

FYI there is another thread regarding this release here that may interest you also. https://www.cloudyni...iril-14-is-out/

[matt_astro_tx]

And another here. https://www.cloudyni...14-from-source/

[matt_astro_tx]

Nothing wrong with your thread, just giving you more info to read about the release!

[Airstrike]

cheers 

 

Nothing wrong with your thread, just giving you more info to read about the release!

cheers mate , the subs were shot using seestar S50 , about 23hr of data a mix of 20sec and 30 sec subs , around 3200+ subs

i use DSS only to see how much exposure total i have , and normally stack in siril and with 2x drizzle , so 3 lots of 2x drizzle made into a final master with a further 2xdrizzle so you can imagine the final file is freekin huge  

also the 2 images i posted at the start of the thread you can see one is clearly blurry over the other

il take alook at the links 

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Edited by Airstrike, 30 April 2025 - 01:37 PM.

[lock042]

cheers 

 

cheers mate , the subs were shot using seestar S50 , about 23hr of data a mix of 20sec and 30 sec subs , around 3200+ subs

i use DSS only to see how much exposure total i have , and normally stack in siril and with 2x drizzle , so 3 lots of 2x drizzle made into a final master with a further 2xdrizzle so you can imagine the final file is freekin huge 

also the 2 images i posted at the start of the thread you can see one is clearly blurry over the other

il take alook at the links 

No it is not blurred. It is just a stetch processing not complete IMO. Especially with GHS which is a bit complicated.

[matt_astro_tx]

cheers

cheers mate , the subs were shot using seestar S50 , about 23hr of data a mix of 20sec and 30 sec subs , around 3200+ subs
i use DSS only to see how much exposure total i have , and normally stack in siril and with 2x drizzle , so 3 lots of 2x drizzle made into a final master with a further 2xdrizzle so you can imagine the final file is freekin huge

also the 2 images i posted at the start of the thread you can see one is clearly blurry over the other

il take alook at the links

Hmmm. Does drizzling already drizzled data gain anything? I’m not sure! 🤔

[cwleveck]

To run color calibration (SPCC or PCC) you now have to plate solve the image first. To do that, go to tools menu, astronmetry and click plate solve.

You sir, are a legend...... I thought I screwed something up loading my new to me laptop.....

[cwleveck]

cheers 

 

cheers mate , the subs were shot using seestar S50 , about 23hr of data a mix of 20sec and 30 sec subs , around 3200+ subs

i use DSS only to see how much exposure total i have , and normally stack in siril and with 2x drizzle , so 3 lots of 2x drizzle made into a final master with a further 2xdrizzle so you can imagine the final file is freekin huge 

also the 2 images i posted at the start of the thread you can see one is clearly blurry over the other

il take alook at the links 

(drizzle * 2 + drizzle * 2 + drizzle * 2) * drizzle=???

 

Im not sure this works does it?

[astrodom]

It took me a while to get the starnet program to connect to my Siril, but now that I have it working in the 1.2 beta, if I upgrade to the new beta, will I have to put in the directory for starnet all over again? 

[WillR]

I cropped, did gradient removal and deconvolution in Graxpert I can't get denoising to run in Graxpert, but that is another issue), and then saved the file as a tiff. (I am trying the work flow of Abdul Astro, but he is working with an earlier version of Siril).

 

However apparently to plate solve in Siril, I need to work with a fits file? So saxve it in Graxpert as a 32 bit tiff?

 

I'm getting an error message: "Plate solving failed. The image could not be aligned with the reference stars".

 

Every time I try processing, I realize why I just stick with a lightly tweaked image directly from the Seestar. Someday, probably soon, all this will be obsolete and ZWO will be able to do everything in the app- gradient removal, deconvolution, color calibration- it already does denoising.

Edited by WillR, 15 May 2025 - 09:24 AM.

[matt_astro_tx]

To plate solve you either need a stacked FITS file which would have the target coordinates embedded, or you can look up your target in the plate solve window. For example for Andromeda you would search for M31.

[dx_ron]

Yep. It is not a blind solver, you need to have coordinates and image scale that are in the right ballpark to start with. These can come either from fits header, by manually entering them into the boxes, or by searching for an object (you might still need to enter focal length and pixel size manually if you search for an object).