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#51 scotsman328i

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Posted 01 May 2025 - 06:29 PM

Sorry for ghosting, i got busy for a while. The reason i was thinking 24 or 27 mm is that i was looking into decent exit pupil so m13 would be as bright as i can get amd still be reletively well framed. Im open to any size though.

No worries Astromorris, we just didn’t want you running off before you really got all the pros and cons of what you really wanted the ocular for. I can only gather you will be looking at much more than M13 with the 27 or 24 Pan, but if you are focused totally on M13, please read responses above. A LOT of good information to steer you to the best focal length of ocular to really bring the best out of M13. We just want you to get the best ocular for your money and enjoy the night sky, my man! waytogo.gif


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#52 Mike W

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Posted 01 May 2025 - 06:49 PM

Well in that case then definitely go with a 10mm Delos!


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#53 Procyon

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Posted 01 May 2025 - 07:36 PM

The reason i was thinking 24 or 27 mm is that i was looking into decent exit pupil so m13 would be as bright as i can get amd still be reletively well framed.

That seems right on paper, but just like communism it never works out in real life lol.

 

While the calculus says it may appear brighter in the 24 Pan, look at a side by side view of it and with a 7-10mm eyepiece and I bet you'll prefer the later. And find it brighter because it appears bigger.


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#54 GolgafrinchanB

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Posted 02 May 2025 - 04:58 AM

Sorry for ghosting, i got busy for a while. The reason i was thinking 24 or 27 mm is that i was looking into decent exit pupil so m13 would be as bright as i can get amd still be reletively well framed. Im open to any size though.

So, stars actually don't lose brightness when the exit pupil gets smaller, but spread out objects do. This means that the individual stars in M13 actually contrast *better* against the surroundings when zoomed in because the sky darkens while the stars stay the same brightness (up to a point where things get less crisp - but that point is somewhere between a 1.5mm and 0.5mm exit pupil depending on personal preference and optics quality).

 

I love my 8mm Delos in my 10" f/5 dob. Stands to reason I'd love a 10mm Delos (I'd probably enjoy the 8mm too) in the 8" f/6 dob. I like my views with a slightly larger exit pupil and therefore slightly more pinpoint stars (hence the 10mm suggestion), but I know a lot of people prefer the extra contrast and scale of zooming in a bit more (hence also seconding the 8mm).

 

If you do end up getting a wide field eyepiece for wide field objects like open clusters, M81/82 as a pair, etc and don't want to wait for the 24mm Delos, may I also recommend adding the 30UFF to your considerations. It's available under different names a variety of vendors (Celestron Ultima Edge and Stellarvue's version are sold in the US). It's a truly wonderful eyepiece.

 

Enjoy the scope!

 

P.S. Do you use glasses when observing or have family who does? It matters a lot for eyepiece recommendations.


Edited by GolgafrinchanB, 02 May 2025 - 05:01 AM.

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#55 HellsKitchen

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Posted 02 May 2025 - 06:36 AM

That seems right on paper, but just like communism it never works out in real life lol.

 

While the calculus says it may appear brighter in the 24 Pan, look at a side by side view of it and with a 7-10mm eyepiece and I bet you'll prefer the later. And find it brighter because it appears bigger.

 

Don't forget the most important part - actual resolution of stars. 


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Posted 02 May 2025 - 07:28 AM

Also M13 is compact, so you don’t need a low power, max FOV eyepiece to fit it in. It will still easily fit in the view of an 8 Delos.

But yeah, resolving the stars is the main reason to use more magnification.

I remember a post where someone raved about the view of M13 at 330x with an ultrawide eyepiece in their 11” SCT. Now that’s higher than I normally go on M13, but a good example of the other extreme.
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Posted 02 May 2025 - 11:55 AM

Thank, i appreciate all the information
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