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#51 Procyon

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 09:17 PM

Sir Procyon, you had a pair of Televue 32mm before in the past right? Did it gives you blackout?

 

I tried one, the first premium eyepiece I ever bought with green writing on it, Televue 32mm for $171, it gives me so much blackout, regardless of how I position my eyes it blackout. I end up return it, I pay return shipping and 10% restocking fee. But it was worth it a try.

 

My eyes and scope however love the $40 cheap Vixen NPL 30mm Plossol though.

Yes, exactly, major blackouts for me too, but some or many people can really like them. Which proves we are all different and alike : ) 

I remember selling one right away after I tried it for binoviewing because again blackouts, with eyeguard extenders, but I kept one for a little more time with an eyeguard extender, but than I sold all my 1.25" eyepieces to switch to 2" eyepieces at the time. It's good you tried it though, now you know about blackouts more, but honestly, not many eyepieces give blackouts, it's very rare, for me anyways. I can count all the eyepieces I got blackouts from, 32mm TV Plossl, 20mm APM and Meade XWA and some Ethos eyepieces. That's pretty much it from the 150 I've tried.


Edited by Procyon, 19 May 2025 - 09:18 PM.

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 09:58 PM

Thank you Sir Procyon, I'm just a cheap person in general so I can't justify myself to buy a $266 Pentax XW eyepiece, especially when my Maks are even cheaper than that. My 90mm Skymax Mak I got it New for $170 at Amazon Japan.

 

Buying an eyepiece that cost more than your scope just doesn't justify to me. 

 

But I'm tempted to buy one, I want one premium eyepiece.



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Posted 19 May 2025 - 10:22 PM

Thank you Sir Procyon, I'm just a cheap person in general so I can't justify myself to buy a $266 Pentax XW eyepiece, especially when my Maks are even cheaper than that. My 90mm Skymax Mak I got it New for $170 at Amazon Japan.

 

Buying an eyepiece that cost more than your scope just doesn't justify to me. 

 

But I'm tempted to buy one, I want one premium eyepiece.

I think it's time we sell all your scopes and get a good big Mak lol. 

 

This one looks so cool https://www.ebay.com...atedSearch=true

 

But I don't know much about Maks, when you are ready you can start a new thread and many CN'ers will give you ideas.


Edited by Procyon, 19 May 2025 - 10:25 PM.

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 10:29 PM

I don't have a mount for a big Mak. Mak get heavy, it weight 20 lbs once it get big. Plus you need a heavy mount. Add to the mount weight it be 45 lbs or 50 lbs, that too heavy for me.

 

I weight 105 lbs, and I live upstairs, there no way I can get it down. If I have a way I already get a big Dob, lol.


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Posted 19 May 2025 - 10:37 PM

I don't have a mount for a big Mak. Mak get heavy, it weight 20 lbs once it get big. Plus you need a heavy mount. Add to the mount weight it be 45 lbs or 50 lbs, that too heavy for me.

 

I weight 105 lbs, and I live upstairs, there no way I can get it down. If I have a way I already get a big Dob, lol.

Makes sense, probably a good idea to have a very decent one that you can carry for now than. You seem to be doing good with the 127mm Maxvsion f/15. 

 

How do you like the view with it or the other Maksutovs and the Vixen NPL 30mm Plossl? 


Edited by Procyon, 19 May 2025 - 10:40 PM.

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 10:43 PM

Hi again MrsM75 & Procyon,

 

I don't have a mount for a big Mak. Mak get heavy, it weight 20 lbs once it get big. Plus you need a heavy mount. Add to the mount weight it be 45 lbs or 50 lbs, that too heavy for me.

 

I weight 105 lbs, and I live upstairs, there no way I can get it down. If I have a way I already get a big Dob, lol.

 

Have you considered a Bino-Viewer with you 127mm MAK ? One eyepiece for each eye and can be small and light and max-satisfy ???

 

Makes sense, probably a good idea to have a very decent one that you can carry for now than. You seem to be doing good with the 127mm Maxvsion f/15. 

 

How do you like the view with it or the other Maksutovs and the Vixen NPL 30mm Plossl? 

 

Not to be mean or contrary,

but MrsM75 gets blackouts because

she fails to learn proper eye position/relief for her eyeglasses -

Just my opinion . . . 

 

Very Best Regards,

 

Ed


Edited by eblanken, 19 May 2025 - 10:45 PM.

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 11:11 PM

She gets blackouts with other eyepieces also? I don't know, but in my case once I get a big initial blackout on a new eyepiece or major kidney beaning by simply viewing through an eyepiece, like any normal person would, I know it's going to be a quick fight and it's gone. If a new eyepiece takes some adjusting but without blackouts, than it usually stays. That seems to happen like 98% of the time.

I just ordered-found a 30mm Celestron Ultima, curious how it will perform. I'm looking for 32mm Brandon Flat Tops but I don't know about 560$ for a pair. Will hold out maybe until something shows up in the ads. 32mm Tak Abbes, no one's selling them it seems. Maybe I'll end up with an Ultima pair in the end.

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Posted 20 May 2025 - 06:35 AM

Without glasses, likely fine.

With glasses, I'd want to get an opinion from some users.  

Eye relief on a 30mm eyepiece would be long (21mm or more), but that lens appears buried pretty far down in.  It remains to be seen if it is actually a 53° eyepiece at that focal length.

The eye lens on the Tele Vue 32mm Plössl is much closer to the upper end of the eyepiece.  That gives some problems to non-wearers of glasses, which is why Tele Vue sells an Eyeguard extender

(and why Baader includes one with its 32mm Plössl).

Vixen NPL Plossls and SLV eyepieces (longest FL 25mm, neat small size), both have adjustable eye height eyecups. 




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