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#1 CN_102NE

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Posted 17 May 2025 - 01:47 PM

Hi all,

The weather is changing and finally there are nights when I can get out and enjoy the night sky.

 

I recently picked up one of the ZWO Seestar S50 units - and I was pleasantly surprised.

 

I happened to have my 10" Dob out at the same time to compare

 

I was concentrating on the Messier galaxies located in the Virgo Cluster.

 

I agree with the observation that others have had - that the experience of looking at celestial objects directly through an eyepiece gives one a greater feeling of closeness to the cosmos.

 

But it also appears to be the case that the little S50 (in live-view only) provided more visual detail of many of those galaxies than I could ever see with my eye looking into an eyepiece.

 

Then with the S50 - when one adds time exposures to the object - the visual detail is even more.

 

In some cases - if I were left to only my Dob and my old eyes - I might not even be able to find some of them.

 

I guess I would much rather be able to find and see them - even viewing them on a tablet - than not hardly see them at all - or they appear as a faint puff of smoke within the stars.

 

Your thoughts??

 

Thanks in advance


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Posted 17 May 2025 - 02:13 PM

Nice summary.  I don't have a S* or Dwarf (yet), but I've been thinking along the same lines - I'd prefer to eyeball objects, but living in heavy light pollution, many DSOs are invisible to me.



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Posted 17 May 2025 - 02:18 PM

That's been my experiences too. I still enjoy viewing what I can with my scopes and bino's but there's only so much visible in my Bortle 5 sky. The Seestar S50 magnifies my viewing by a factor of 10 IMO. The Virgo Galaxies for instance are barely visible. Seestar gives me this:...borg.gif

 

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It's not fine AP but it's a lot better than zip waytogo.gif


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Posted 17 May 2025 - 03:07 PM

Finding things the old-fashioned way is half the fun for some folks.  But if LP makes it unfindable, I agree that  seeing something with tech help is better than nada! 



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Posted 17 May 2025 - 03:44 PM

Thank you for your post. My eyes have seriously deteriorated since I first started observing with my 10 inch Dob. So I bought a SeeStar S50 last summer after seeing what my friends' units could do.

 

Yes, I am delighted that a 1 minute exposure of M101 from my Bortle 8 backyard shows a galaxy with spiral arms so much better than what my beloved 10 inch Dob could.


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Posted 17 May 2025 - 03:47 PM

At 75 my eyes don’t see that well anymore. The Seestar fills in the gap.


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Posted 17 May 2025 - 04:09 PM

Nice summary.  I don't have a S* or Dwarf (yet), but I've been thinking along the same lines - I'd prefer to eyeball objects, but living in heavy light pollution, many DSOs are invisible to me.

I live in a very light polluted area too and I have a Seestar s50 and love it. I am amazed at what I can see with it ( espically when used with an android tablet ).


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Posted 17 May 2025 - 04:15 PM

Always greener pastures I guess. At this point in time, I feel satisfied with what I observe with from my back patio in somewhat heavy LP.  While I can often get a much more detailed look at what I'm after using the Seestar, its operation is a completely different feeling IMO. I never get bored doing visual observing of the same object night after night, but imaging the same thing night after night is not how I like to use the Seestar. I guess if I were after stacking hours of images to process a final masterpiece, it might be different, but I'm not into that much either. I will admit, that many small galaxies I observe via a scope are also small when imaging with my S50. For what ever reason, seeing a small single smudge using imaging does not thrill me like seeing it in the eyepiece.

 

I use a combo of NV and standard optics. At times, I'll use the Seestar while observing with a scope. NV defeats my level of LP I'm subjected to for real time observing, and using standard optics on brighter objects makes up for the lack of color NV forces on to me. The Seestar fits as a 3rd option.

These are unguided .3 sec cell phone shots on a bad night using NV. The view through the EP is much better than I can represent with a simple snap shot as shown below.

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But I do want to further venture into EAA... just not high on my priority list yet.

 



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Posted 17 May 2025 - 04:19 PM

"The choice between eyepiece viewing and camera-live viewing"

 

That's a very simple choice for me:  "eyepiece viewing" -- simple because I don't have the option of (the equipment for) "camera-live viewing".

 

I've always been able to see enough to keep me occupied and happy without ever giving any consideration to camera-live viewing.

 

I enjoy "working" to see more -- making use of dark-adaptation, averted vision, and taking more time in order to facilitate being able to see more through traditional eyepieces.

 

After all, consider what I'm able to see with even a mere 1-inch aperture from my home via the traditional eyepiece-viewing methods:

 

Arzachel Alphonsus Ptolemaeus 1 inch aperture 18 Oct 2018 67x Sketcher
 
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We don't all live/observe under severely light-polluted locations smile.gif .

 


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Posted 17 May 2025 - 04:24 PM

I've dabbled in all forms of observing and ~data collection~ or whatever we astronomers call it now-a-days... getting close to "experienced" or even "professional" in some arenas. But some years ago I returned to my roots --- visual observing, some enhanced with Night Vision... and enjoying it immensely as I used to half a century ago... relaxing and fully engaging. I don't regret exploring any of the cute sidetracks, wanting to explore every road not taken and enjoying the experiences. I will point out that only direct visual (photons from the cosmos directly into one's eyes) and Night Vision (amplified view into one's eyes) --- are ~Real Time~ seeing it at the moment the photons arrive here and nowhere else --- my own personal photons from NGC4565 for me and no one else. That's where the Communion with the Universe begins and persists. Most of my senior associates have taken that same ultimate path to --- enlightenment!    Tom

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Posted 17 May 2025 - 09:21 PM

Your thoughts??

From a dark sky, many deepsky objects are not only visible, but a surprising number look good visually. From a brightly lit sky, the bright ones, like M42 still look OKish.

 

I started with a Seestar S50, and my experience was good enough that I upgraded to an Origin. In city viewing conditions, I point the Origin at M42, and the first, ten second exposure fills the tablet with detail and color. On M31, the first image fills the field. Ten exposures show numerous dark lanes. The first exposure of M33 shows only the core. Watching the image develop over a minute worth shows a magically expanding galaxy, and showing good spiral structure.

 

The Seestar gave me a glimpse of what it could accomplish when I tried for the Draco Trio (NGCs 5981, 5982, 5985). A two hour exposure not only showed the galaxies, but details within them. In addition I spotted several PGC galaxies, something I have never done visually, and this from an area of severe light pollution.

 

Smart scopes represented a way to view deepsky objects on a regular basis, and extend what I could see.


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Posted 17 May 2025 - 10:32 PM

I recently bought a Seestar S30.  I will use it to see details in galaxies, and some I cannot see at all without it. I will use my 6 and 12 inch dobs to see what I can of these same galaxies, but I really enjoy the star clusters in the dobs. Things like M44, M13 etc... The Seestar is fun to tinker with, and is just impressive when you think where electronics have gone in the last 50 years. 


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Posted 17 May 2025 - 10:53 PM

My involvement in amateur astronomy dates from the era when "imaging" meant mind-numbing sessions staring through the crosshair eyepiece of the film camera attached to your telescope, all the while twiddling slow-motion controls, followed by much fussing in the darkroom, whereupon you found that the blank frame in your hand was a 1/50th-second exposure of M31 followed by 45 minutes of careful guiding.

 

I never did any of that.

 

Seriously, I have always been into the aesthetic of visual observing. I have profound respect for the achievements of contemporary imagers, and am delighted to see such fine results obtained by long or short exposures with small apertures, but for me it is never quite the same as visual work. Also, I have had quite a high-tech career, and I have always kept astronomy as a low-tech, get-out-in-nature kind of hobby: I am fond of saying that sometimes I don't want anything to do with anything even remotely suspected of containing electrons, and some of the photons I look at haven't seen an electron for millions of years.

 

 

Clear sky ...


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Posted 18 May 2025 - 09:09 AM

I agree with the observation that others have had - that the experience of looking at celestial objects directly through an eyepiece gives one a greater feeling of closeness to the cosmos.

 

But it also appears to be the case that the little S50 (in live-view only) provided more visual detail of many of those galaxies than I could ever see with my eye looking into an eyepiece.

 

Then with the S50 - when one adds time exposures to the object - the visual detail is even more.

 

Well, yes, this is well known, no offense meant, that a camera captures much fainter detail than the human eye. You have pretty much described why people do EAA.

 

But your topic title suggests it’s a choice. No choice needed. I observe with my 10” and Seestar together- I rarely use one or another. Often the tablet is on the table next to me, with the Seestar trained on the same faint galaxies that I am looking for in the eyepiece. The Seestar image, with its capture of a 1.3 x .7 degree field of view, identifies the field stars, stars too faint to see in the finder, and helps me zero in on the galaxy’s location.

The Messier galaxies are mostly not a challenge to observe from my skies, but as I go deeper, some galaxies are just at the edge of visibility in averted vision. The Seestar has helped me find some I would otherwise never see.

 

The only real satisfaction in observing these ultra-faint galaxies is checking them off a list and trying to see if I can detect any differentiation between core and halo or elongation in the smudge.


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Posted 18 May 2025 - 09:47 PM

Well, yes, this is well known, no offense meant, that a camera captures much fainter detail than the human eye. You have pretty much described why people do EAA.

 

But your topic title suggests it’s a choice. No choice needed. I observe with my 10” and Seestar together- I rarely use one or another. Often the tablet is on the table next to me, with the Seestar trained on the same faint galaxies that I am looking for in the eyepiece. The Seestar image, with its capture of a 1.3 x .7 degree field of view, identifies the field stars, stars too faint to see in the finder, and helps me zero in on the galaxy’s location.

The Messier galaxies are mostly not a challenge to observe from my skies, but as I go deeper, some galaxies are just at the edge of visibility in averted vision. The Seestar has helped me find some I would otherwise never see.

 

The only real satisfaction in observing these ultra-faint galaxies is checking them off a list and trying to see if I can detect any differentiation between core and halo or elongation in the smudge.

Thanks!

 

Can I ask - you mentioned the Seestar helps you to zero in on an object.

I have a green laser I mount on the Seestar to help with that - but I'm not sure how well it works for me

I suspect your eyes are much better than mine :-]

How do you use the Seestar to help you find the object with your 10" 

 

thanks in advance!


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Posted 19 May 2025 - 12:49 AM

So I’ve been looking up above for many years. I have to say since I bought my S30 I’ve been reinvigorated looking at the stars and nebula. My using the Seestar has ignited my passion again. Lugging out my dob isn’t as fun when I was younger thus less time enjoying time behind the eyepiece. This little bugger has lit a fire like when I got my first telescope. Best thing in the world IMO. Can’t wait where this takes us going forward. 


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Posted 19 May 2025 - 02:45 AM

Thanks!

 

Can I ask - you mentioned the Seestar helps you to zero in on an object.

I have a green laser I mount on the Seestar to help with that - but I'm not sure how well it works for me

I suspect your eyes are much better than mine :-]

How do you use the Seestar to help you find the object with your 10" 

 

thanks in advance!

I think you misunderstand me. I don’t and you can’t use the Seestar literally as a finder.

 

I use it like a chart to show me the relationship of the target to the stars in the surrounding field, the same way I might use a photo in an observing guide.

What was your reason for putting a laser on the Seestar?



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Posted 19 May 2025 - 04:57 AM

My involvement in amateur astronomy dates from the era when "imaging" meant mind-numbing sessions staring through the crosshair eyepiece of the film camera attached to your telescope, all the while twiddling slow-motion controls, followed by much fussing in the darkroom, whereupon you found that the blank frame in your hand was a 1/50th-second exposure of M31 followed by 45 minutes of careful guiding.

 

I never did any of that.

 

Seriously, I have always been into the aesthetic of visual observing. I have profound respect for the achievements of contemporary imagers, and am delighted to see such fine results obtained by long or short exposures with small apertures, but for me it is never quite the same as visual work. Also, I have had quite a high-tech career, and I have always kept astronomy as a low-tech, get-out-in-nature kind of hobby: I am fond of saying that sometimes I don't want anything to do with anything even remotely suspected of containing electrons, and some of the photons I look at haven't seen an electron for millions of years.

 

 

Clear sky ...

 

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I did some astrophotography with film, manual guiding with a hand controller. I remember one mount that had one section with bad periodic error.  When that came along, it was too much to guide out.  And then it would come back in a hurry, again too much to guide out.   And then I remember the first batch of film.. the images all came out black. The film lab didn't read the note that these were astrophotos. And later, in the early days of digital, I gave it a try.  I realized, I was communing with my equipment rather than the universe.. 

 

There is magic in the eyepiece that a sensor cannot capture.  

 

I spend quite a bit of time observing from the bright skies of my urban backyard, normally not as much as I spend under dark skies but quite a bit.  When I started out, I think an article in Sky and Telescope got me interested in double star so I do enough dark sky observing to be satisfied.  Doubles, the planets, bright DSOs, these are the menu for this urban amateur astronomer. 

 

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 08:57 AM

I'm another one who uses a seestar along side my dob. Some nights I let it run on just one target while working through an observing list with my dob. And some nights I change targets as I go down a list as kind of an electronic log of the night's activities. 

But that was all back in the good ol days before the skies clouded up... like 8 weeks ago. 

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 09:24 AM

I think you misunderstand me. I don’t and you can’t use the Seestar literally as a finder.

 

I use it like a chart to show me the relationship of the target to the stars in the surrounding field, the same way I might use a photo in an observing guide.

What was your reason for putting a laser on the Seestar?

I have the laser on the Seestar with an on/off switch connected to a wire

I can turn it on and then lean over to the 10" dob and use that laser light to help orient it

I have instance in which I struggle to see a target - and in many cases I'm thinking it might be because my eyes are not good enough for seeing it through an eyepiece

Replacing the eyepiece with a camera in live-video-mode I can often instantly make that object out.

 

Thanks



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Posted 19 May 2025 - 10:45 AM

I prefer to actually see the details of what I’m viewing. I looked through an eyepiece on a 12-inch DOB the other night and was disappointed because it was even worse than I remembered. I loved visual observing for more than fifty years, but I don’t miss it.

 

Do what you want and use the tools that make you happy. By the same token, don’t feel the need to defend your choices to others. If they’re truly what you enjoy the most they don’t need to be defended. But neither do mine.

 

Oh yeah, I’ve given up my abacus as well as my horse and buggy, too. 


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Posted 19 May 2025 - 03:42 PM

I prefer to actually see the details of what I’m viewing. I looked through an eyepiece on a 12-inch DOB the other night and was disappointed because it was even worse than I remembered. I loved visual observing for more than fifty years, but I don’t miss it.

 

Do what you want and use the tools that make you happy. By the same token, don’t feel the need to defend your choices to others. If they’re truly what you enjoy the most they don’t need to be defended. But neither do mine.

 

Oh yeah, I’ve given up my abacus as well as my horse and buggy, too. 

I haven't given up my slide-rule.   I was just using it to determine counterweight locations.   I've been like post #13

 

"I have had quite a high-tech career, and I have always kept astronomy as a low-tech, get-out-in-nature kind of hobby:"

 

One other reason for me not to electrify this hobby is that electronics don't age well yet.   I still enjoy using the scope I bought in 1987.    There aren't any electronic gizmos from 1987 that I use or would enjoy using.    My oldest electronic thing is a music cd player from 1997 or 1998.   Some people rave about connecting these smart telescopes to their tablet or phone.   Software has a shorter working useful life than the electronic platform.   It has happened way too many times that I "upgrade" an operating system and my tried and true programs won't recompile.   I wrote image processing programs in plain vanilla 'C' back in the 1990's.  They've jumped through many operating systems and even computer architectures.  Now they won't compile after an OS upgrade.  I know I can figure out the problems but resent having to go through with it.  

 

Many people rave about these devices as the answer to light pollution.    I think of dark-sky as a human birthright that has been taken from us through the mal-adaptation of technology.   Rather than correct the mistake of wasting light,  the light polluters tell people "Don't worry just buy more technology."   Or jet off to a dark sky vacation. 

 

For the bright objects that I observe with my modest equipment the photographs don't capture what I see.   People say they see more "detail" in the photographs of DSOs but my equipment only shows the brighter subset and sometimes that bright subset shows arcs of stars or darker areas that get washed out in the photos.  I recently made a sketch of M5 in poor conditions moon and haze.  When I compared my sketch to the photos I see on the internet I had a hard time seeing this arm of stars extending from it.  The photos all showed a mass of stars of the same intensity it was difficult to distinguish the bright ones I sketched.  They were there just hidden in the photo.   One night at a Jupiter opposition I saw one of its moons transit its own shadow perfectly.   Well, as perfectly as my scope and sky would allow, the bight moon seemed to be centered exactly in the middle of its own shadow.  

I searched for a photo on the internet and haven't found one.  The closest I've seen have been among the amazing photos at this web site:

https://www.damianpe...com/jupiter.htm

 

I'm pretty sure that eventually we will be able to tell the smart telescope to watch a Jupiter opposition and snap a photo of the exact moment a moon covers its own shadow while we sleep.  When we wake up in the morning we can view the photo.    If I did that I would miss out on the sense of discovery I had when I made the completely unexpected observation.   The smart telescope way doesn't seem much different than telling an AI agent like DeepSeek or ChatGpt to go out on the internet and find such a photo or even to generate a synthetic photo of the event. 

 

 

I agree with BradHaak's sentiment "Do what you want and use the tools that make you happy."  but warning that if we adopt a smart telescope only approach we miss out on some good experiences and maybe drop the ball on combating light pollution.    The posts on the internet about the seestar scopes give me the impression that people are expressing that new-toy joy.   


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Posted 19 May 2025 - 06:21 PM

I haven't given up my slide-rule.   I was just using it to determine counterweight locations.   I've been like post #13

 

"I have had quite a high-tech career, and I have always kept astronomy as a low-tech, get-out-in-nature kind of hobby:"

 

One other reason for me not to electrify this hobby is that electronics don't age well yet.   I still enjoy using the scope I bought in 1987.    There aren't any electronic gizmos from 1987 that I use or would enjoy using.    My oldest electronic thing is a music cd player from 1997 or 1998.   Some people rave about connecting these smart telescopes to their tablet or phone.   Software has a shorter working useful life than the electronic platform.   It has happened way too many times that I "upgrade" an operating system and my tried and true programs won't recompile.   I wrote image processing programs in plain vanilla 'C' back in the 1990's.  They've jumped through many operating systems and even computer architectures.  Now they won't compile after an OS upgrade.  I know I can figure out the problems but resent having to go through with it.  

 

Many people rave about these devices as the answer to light pollution.    I think of dark-sky as a human birthright that has been taken from us through the mal-adaptation of technology.   Rather than correct the mistake of wasting light,  the light polluters tell people "Don't worry just buy more technology."   Or jet off to a dark sky vacation. 

 

For the bright objects that I observe with my modest equipment the photographs don't capture what I see.   People say they see more "detail" in the photographs of DSOs but my equipment only shows the brighter subset and sometimes that bright subset shows arcs of stars or darker areas that get washed out in the photos.  I recently made a sketch of M5 in poor conditions moon and haze.  When I compared my sketch to the photos I see on the internet I had a hard time seeing this arm of stars extending from it.  The photos all showed a mass of stars of the same intensity it was difficult to distinguish the bright ones I sketched.  They were there just hidden in the photo.   One night at a Jupiter opposition I saw one of its moons transit its own shadow perfectly.   Well, as perfectly as my scope and sky would allow, the bight moon seemed to be centered exactly in the middle of its own shadow.  

I searched for a photo on the internet and haven't found one.  The closest I've seen have been among the amazing photos at this web site:

https://www.damianpe...com/jupiter.htm

 

I'm pretty sure that eventually we will be able to tell the smart telescope to watch a Jupiter opposition and snap a photo of the exact moment a moon covers its own shadow while we sleep.  When we wake up in the morning we can view the photo.    If I did that I would miss out on the sense of discovery I had when I made the completely unexpected observation.   The smart telescope way doesn't seem much different than telling an AI agent like DeepSeek or ChatGpt to go out on the internet and find such a photo or even to generate a synthetic photo of the event. 

 

 

I agree with BradHaak's sentiment "Do what you want and use the tools that make you happy."  but warning that if we adopt a smart telescope only approach we miss out on some good experiences and maybe drop the ball on combating light pollution.    The posts on the internet about the seestar scopes give me the impression that people are expressing that new-toy joy.   

I just bought a used slipstick last December on eBay. My son the actuary, thought it would be fun to learn how to use one. 

 

Seestars and Dwarf 3s are, at least for now, mostly entry-level scopes that are great for folks who are exploring where they want to go with the hobby or even as an entry to our hobby. A few folks will even settle on them as a long-term tool. With the mosaic mode that was added late last year, you can make some incredible images with them. It takes a while, but that's okay.

 

I also see the same low cost smart scopes as gateway scopes. It's similar to aperture fever for visual folks. Once new users see what can be done with small apertures and a little time, they start to wonder what would happen with better optics, more aperture, and larger sensors.

 

I also spent my entire career in high-tech (look at where I live). So, I understand about electronics not aging well. But in my decades of looking through eyepieces, I've never owned a scope more than a couple of years so that's not even a consideration for me. That's true of my computer and phone history, too. There are too many options available to limit myself. I've always been an early adopter and I don't see that changing now.

 

Besides my back can't handle the load of carrying and setting up large scopes. The Celestron Origin is about as big as I'm willing to go, these days, and some days I don't want to even deal with it. But at least vision isn't an issue since cataract surgery. I have full near to distant 20/25 vision in both eyes (I highly recommend getting cataracts so that you too can have bionic eyes borg.gif ). But in spite of that, I'll never look through an eyepiece again unless I'm being polite to a friend that wants to show me something. And when I do look at some grayish fuzzy blob, I'll be gracious and complimentary about it. 

 

The point to all of this is that there are multiple reasons to stay with visual astronomy, or to move to AP or to smart scopes. They're all valid.  I read your reasons to continue with visual, and I agree with most of what you said, but I reached a different conclusion. This is a hobby with many ways to experience it. You've found your niche and are obviously happy with it. That's great, but others of us find different niches, and that's okay, too.

 

Don't ever assume that your priorities, reasoning, and decisions apply to anyone except yourself. Enjoy your way of doing things and support others in their own enjoyment.

 

Who knows, maybe they or you may even learn something new. Isn't learning and sharing why we're all here?


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#24 Peter Besenbruch

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 06:41 PM

I did some astrophotography with film, manual guiding with a hand controller. I remember one mount that had one section with bad periodic error.  When that came along, it was too much to guide out.  And then it would come back in a hurry, again too much to guide out.   And then I remember the first batch of film.. the images all came out black. The film lab didn't read the note that these were astrophotos. And later, in the early days of digital, I gave it a try.  I realized, I was communing with my equipment rather than the universe.. ...

Shudder! I never got attracted to old school, film based astrophotography. Likewise the current wave of refractor based, digital photography. I have seen too many folks who set up at 7:00 p.m., and by 9:30 have just finished polar aligning. I agree, equipment should be simple to set up, and just get out of the way. 

 

I checked out smart scopes because I wanted fast setup, and hassle free operation. There are smart scopes that meet those criteria at both the low end and the high end of the market. What they provide in return are a sense of wonder at the huge variety of galaxies out there, the delicate colors of the nebulae, and the ability to resolve any of the NGC cataloged globular clusters into stars, and all from my backyard.

 

I have friends whose eyes are failing, but never gave up on astronomy, because they got a smart scope. They come to the scheduled star parties, but also view from downtown Honolulu. They, like me, never considered astrophotography until the advent of smart scopes.

 

We have access to our "dark" site twice a month. If the weather doesn't cooperate, there's always next month. Smart scopes, however, open up the whole month. I even view when the moon is full, because I can if it is clear. This past full moon I was viewing both the moon, and NGC2997. The NGC describes 2997 as both remarkable, and very faint. Both are accurate.


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#25 WillR

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Posted 19 May 2025 - 06:45 PM

I have the laser on the Seestar with an on/off switch connected to a wire

I can turn it on and then lean over to the 10" dob and use that laser light to help orient it

I have instance in which I struggle to see a target - and in many cases I'm thinking it might be because my eyes are not good enough for seeing it through an eyepiece

Replacing the eyepiece with a camera in live-video-mode I can often instantly make that object out.

 

Thanks

Ahh, now I get it. So you can use a Seestar as a literal finder. You must have to get the laser very well aligned with the Seestar’s pointing, which seems like it might be a challenge. Do you find the laser points accurately enough that you get the target in the eyepiece?

 

I use a laser mounted to my 10” to get me in the vicinity of a naked eye star and then my RACI takes over. I don’t worry if the laser alignment is spot on as long as the naked eye star lands in the field of view of the RACI. I then start my star hop from there.


Edited by WillR, 19 May 2025 - 06:47 PM.



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