Saturn Last Night
#26
Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:26 AM
#27
Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:24 PM
#28
Posted 24 May 2013 - 05:10 AM
Yeah: good seeing, good optics of telescope, equatorial mount, decent eyepiece, dielectric diagonal, thermal equilibrium, perfect collimation and Saturn at 38 degrees.Wow 444x from your 8" ? You must have some night to resolve all that!
#29
Posted 26 May 2013 - 12:15 AM
Highest magnification 5/25/13 was 275 power. The relative humidity was at 90%.
I did spy the disk's shadow cast on the ring. A thin sliver. Wow.
So what might be the typical relative humidity in Azerbaijan. I figure your altitude is quite high.
#30
Posted 26 May 2013 - 12:35 PM
#31
Posted 27 May 2013 - 09:00 AM
Seeing 4/10 Pickering
Transp: slight high altitude haze
Wind: calm
At 4/10 Seeing the image is quite simple but a few things stood out at times:
-My Televue Plossls definately lend Saturn a warmer tone than my Baader Classic Orthos though both a quite sharp.
- a yellow Wratten 15 did a very nice job with Cassinis while W80a reduced irradiation to a degree but clearly wasn't as beneficial as yellow.
- bi tone aspect of rings clear while the Crepe was difficult at best. Better seeing has it obvious.
- Cassinis only at the ansae - again the seeing.
-Shadow cast by rings was often invisible due to image softening of 4/10
The Baader Orthos are doing very well and Im pleased even if the sky was poor.
Pete
#32
Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:02 AM
I must say, Saturn at 200x is really a nice size to observe with. Maybe some night I can use my 9mm EP for 240x which I have read is the sweet spot for this scope:)
Bob
#33
Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:21 AM
#34
Posted 27 May 2013 - 12:04 PM
Yes it was jittery wasnt it. I could see how you might think it was a drive issue. Hopefully the great seeing you had down in NC will make it up here to night?
Pete
#35
Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:46 PM
Transparency was lousy but seeing averaged to 6/10 though began at 4/10 and my threshold for at least a fair view is Pickering 6 so I had a good time. Ill be providing a finished sketch tomorrow, but Ill hit a few highlights...
1. The boundary layer fan yielded a tighter Titan than Id ever seen at this seeing level ever. It was still soft edged but it wasn't wildly flairing which was the non-fanned typical view. I've never seen it so clean for such blah seeing. Its these little micro orbs like Titan and the Galilean moons that show the effect best of boundary layer fan application.
2. Enceladus wavered in and out of view and in lesser transparency - not bad. I half heartedly looked for Mimas to no avail of course.
3. A night like this brings home how extraudinarily seeing Enckes would be.
I have doubts even in 9-10 seeing. That high res CCD images through CN 8" can't reveal Enckes Division either doesn't bode well for my future attempts.
4. My binoviewers were great but since *low power* is 350x I stuck with mono at 200x-250x. Wratten15 again was excellent on the rings.
Oddly the 6/10 seeing came about over the course of 15 minutes and then held until I called it quits. Not the best view of Satutn Ive ever had to be sure but it was rewarding and profitable.
Sketch posted tomorrow.
Pete
#36
Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:13 AM
-geo
#37
Posted 28 May 2013 - 06:37 AM
Six Pickering for me while not great and it doesn't allow really high mags does though allow an acceptable level of detail coming through. At 4/10 it would r been the most bland Saturn and Cassinis only at the far ansae. These are the good seeing months now do I shouldn't have posted my *garbage seeing* post but after a long winter of that with the jetstream - argh already.
Pete
#38
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:13 AM
Still can't see *BLEEP* of M51, just two blobs of light and it was straight up! Oh well, the moon cycle is over for now and maybe I'll get a 4/5 on transparency one night. In the mean time I'll just keep looking at Saturn. It is in a prime spot in my backyard after 9pm.
#39
Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:49 PM
You are very lucky to be ale to see 6 moons. From my red zone backyard I cannot. Hopefully I'll be able from a green zone in june.
Andre
#40
Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:10 AM
Me too. From heavily polluted city I can see only 4 moons in my 8".Bob
You are very lucky to be ale to see 6 moons. From my red zone backyard I cannot. Hopefully I'll be able from a green zone in june.
Andre
#41
Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:31 AM
Pete
#42
Posted 31 May 2013 - 12:38 PM
But Saturn looked very nice. Cassini's was visible all the way around. 360x was clear and steady and for the first time since opposition, I could notice a feature in the B ring at the ansae. Just a slightly darker contrast along the inside edge next to the C ring.
The planet's shadow on the rings was really distinct, and I could see good detail all the way to the top pole. Normally the top just looks like a darker belt going straight across, but last night it was like a grey circle at the very top, and I could see the curve. That's why I called it a circle. And with a thin whiteish color surrounding the bottom of the grey spot on the pole.
At the time the seeing and transparency were predicted to be 4/5. Based on Antares diffraction rings, I estimate it was 8/10 Pickering. The wind was annoying, periodically bouncing the planet around. Wish I had a CPC 11". Or a heavy duty gem for my nexstar 8. Either way, I've come to find tracking indispensable for planetary work. The zhumell has been collecting cobwebs.
#43
Posted 01 June 2013 - 08:57 AM
This is sure a great time to be observing Saturn, best I can remember and the placement from my backyard is great!
Bob
#44
Posted 01 June 2013 - 10:39 AM
Pete
#45
Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:38 PM
Oh well, at least I'm at 35* here in NC and not 42* when I was up in Boston for a long time and have a pretty good view of it now, can't complain.
Oh and on a lighter note, here is one of my favorites catch phrase...."I'm not complaining, just explaining"
#46
Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:53 PM
If you where at 360x, the sky must have been extra good that night.
That was a very good night. I got a super clean split on Antares.
Last night they predicted 4/5 seeing from sunset on, I set up at 8pm, took a quick peek at 8:30 and as expected, Saturn looked great at 360x, sharp and detailed, just a little bit of "rolling" from the thermals, (it was still in the low 90s here in Phoenix) like the vsync on a CRT was slightly misadjusted. I left the scope set up, went to dinner, and when I came back an hour later, the view was much worse. 360x was blurry, and even at 180x, the Cassini division was wriggling like a little snake. I packed up.
Conditions seem to support 360x at least a few times I observe each month. But it's starting to get really hot. No fun sweating at the eyepiece.
Yeah, it's not that high in the sky but I've still had some excellent views this year. Of course Saturn is dimmer at 360x, but when it's steady enough, I can see a lot more detail when it's bigger.
#47
Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:25 PM
Clear skies to all.
#48
Posted 02 June 2013 - 08:42 AM
Had crisp views of Saturn from 150-250x last night. That doesn't happen very often:)
#49
Posted 02 June 2013 - 09:18 AM
Pete
#50
Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:22 PM
Not bad but not great. Best overall magnification was 115x.
Pete