Those SS long Jaegers lenses
#1
Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:18 PM
Eskimo nebula showed some detail and had good surface brightness even at 175x
I live in a full up orange to red zone
Action shot
#6
Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:39 PM
#7
Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:01 AM
I'm waiting for summer to build the 4 inch.
#8
Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:09 PM
Kind of funny I designed my lens cells like the Unitrons not having seen one. My 4" cell has a spring loaded retainer made from grey PVC with a 0.125 6061 pressure plate. Looked at pics of some Unitron cells and was like hey! Never liked threaded rings for retainers. Way too easy to get uneven pressure on the lens.
Thinking about a 3" refractor shootout in the backyard tonight. Weather and three year old permitting. He likes the Sears 6339A. "I like this one too daddy" he said last night as he snuck into my room of requirement.
83mm Jaegers F15
76mm Royal Astro F15.8
80mm Vixen F11
Still have a Vintage Towa 80mm F11 lens without a tube.
#9
Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:10 PM
#10
Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:47 PM
Terra
#11
Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:54 PM
#12
Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:39 PM
Later I may have Crawford machine up a custom one for me.
I'll get some pics for the group once I'm finished. And BTW, I'm using duct tape to shim the cell to the tube.
#13
Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:30 PM
#14
Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:33 PM
Contenders:
82 mm F15 Jaegers
76 mm F15.8 Sears 6339
80 mm F11 Vixen A80Mwt Japanese made
Tried to use nearly the same magnification and eyepiece type.
First up is Jupiter. All showed a similar amount of detail but the Jaegers had the best color correction and a little better detail than the 6449 and Vixen. There was a bit more scattered light in the Jaegers, but that is due to the fact that th inside the the tube is bare Aluminum. The Vixen had the brightest image but the extra color was noticeable.
Jaegers wins by a narrow margin followed by the Vixen and the 6339 in a tie.
On the star test. Jaegers was nearly perfect along with the 6339 and Vixen just just behind.
Jaegers by a hair.
Orion Nebula. Vixen had a darker background than the other two, but the trapezium really popped in the Jaegers. The Sears had a little darker image and was let down by a narrower field.
Vixen wins here, I'll try this again when the Jaegers tube is darkened and baffled.
Castor and Delta Gem. I like Delta Gem it's about 5.7" sep and the companion is mag 8.1. All three scopes showed the companion pretty well. the Jaegers looked a tiny bit better than the other two scopes. Castor looked very good in all three.
I'll call this one slight edge to the Jaegers.
Eskimo Nebula. Vixen had a darker sky background than the others. 6449 image was a little bit dimmer than the Jaegers and Vixen
Vixen by a nose.
Conclusions: 6339 is let down by the really long narrow draw tube making wider fields impossible. The Sears color correction was not as good as the Jaegers and the lens is smaller by 6mm. Still a VERY good scope, just a little behind the others.
Vixen has very good coatings and dark sky background. At F11 it has more color than the Jaegers and a little more than the Sears. Nicely made scope and more portable than the other two.
Jaegers had the best images of the three with the best color correction and contrast by a small margin. I need to baffle and flock the tube, the shiny bare aluminum was hurting the sky back ground. My overall favorite of the group. This may be a very good sample, but both my 102mm Jaegers are very good.
#15
Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:42 AM
#16
Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:23 PM
I put my Towa 80mm f/15 objective back in the scope last night and the wonderful f/15 views returned. Tight stars, little or no CA on anything, including Jupiter. The trapezium looked great with a hint of the E star popping in and out. M81 and M82 were easy targets. Who says you can't see deep sky with a small, long focal length scope!
Guys in the ATM forum think I got a bum optics set from Surplus Shed and I should send it back. Any ideas here on how I could fix my CA problem?
Thanks
#17
Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:29 PM
#18
Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:32 PM
This will be a good one.
#19
Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:56 PM
I have the tube and focuser, just to lazy to go to my machinist friend to make some adapters on lathe