MX discount...
#26
Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:37 AM
For any long exposure imaging, the vast majority are going to be using a CCD with FW and capture software along with autoguiding. Even using a DSLR, most will use capture software. In my mind,
anyone purchasing a mount in this class would be looking to do AP exclusively.
#27
Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:50 AM
#28
Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:55 AM
#29
Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:04 PM
".. is something of a red herring .." Totally agree!
For any long exposure imaging, the vast majority are going to be using a CCD with FW and capture software along with autoguiding. Even using a DSLR, most will use capture software. In my mind,
anyone purchasing a mount in this class would be looking to do AP exclusively.
Purty much. I wouldn't think of imaging with my DSLR without Nebulosity. So much easier.
#30
Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:29 PM
Clear skies,
Bill
#31
Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:44 PM
I have used splashtop a bit and it works pretty well to remotely "drive" via the connected laptop but it's less easy to work with MaximDL this way. I prefer a more traditional vnc or remote desktop solution. The opengl stuff is a little annoying but it's doable. Haven't given SkySafari a try.
Clear skies,
Bill
#32
Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:21 PM
not if you're using an SG-4 or similar... i'm thinking of the SG-4 + DSLR combination for hassle-free imaging.
Maybe if you've got a standalone guider, which not many people do. OTHERWISE, you won't be guiding even ST4 style without a computer. You will have PHD, or Maxim, or CCDsoft running on a PC to allow you to guide. Some of the standalone autoguiders can work, but not a cotton picking one of them works as well as good old PHD and a computer. The computer is something of a red herring in my mind, anyway. A netbook is actually more portable and easier to use than some dadgum standalone autoguider.
I'd stack my STV up against just Aout Nything for accuracy... And it's way, way faster than any pc based approach... Generally I'm guiding before my pc has finished booting and the camera has reached temp!
You can get an STV used now for a steal price wise... Is it as portable as a netbook or laptop? No. But, unlike software based solutions, it is basically a hardware urn key appliance. I like that.
That said, the MX is on my desire list, after all my STV will guide it just fine...
#33
Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:38 PM
that sounds interesting.... not that i'm in a position to buy an MX
btw i use maximdl with my Mach1 and i can remotely drive it with VNC. there is a VNC client for both ipad and android... have used both. works fine. doesn't eliminate the PC running maximdl though.
#34
Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:41 AM
I do the same (prefer Splashtop though) for monitoring imaging runs from the house with a tablet. TSX works surprisingly well with a touch interface but the smaller dialogs and number of them with MaximDL really screams for a mouse and keyboard so I generally use a desktop and remote in when it's chilly or I'm watching a game and am messing around rather than running a scripted session.
Clear skies,
Bill
#35
Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:46 AM
The first 11 (reverse chronological) images on this page were with the MX, the rest the Pro:
http://www.silvren.com/AP/pictures/
Jeff
#36
Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:50 AM
I'd stack my STV up against just Aout Nything for accuracy... And it's way, way faster than any pc based approach... Generally I'm guiding before my pc has finished booting and the camera has reached temp!
You can get an STV used now for a steal price wise... Is it as portable as a netbook or laptop? No. But, unlike software based solutions, it is basically a hardware urn key appliance. I like that.
That said, the MX is on my desire list, after all my STV will guide it just fine...
Well, the problem is that it's not made anymore and hasn't been for a long time. Didn't much like that itsy-bitsy screen, either.
#37
Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:33 AM
#38
Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:53 AM
I won't pretend to know why you need to make a pointing model with this mount but...I would like to comment that it would sure be nice if you could buy a mount of this caliber with a decent hand controller like on my iEQ45 or CG-5 .
I've thought the same thing for years.
#39
Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:18 PM
Just think how much they make out of each upgrade and assume each user will upgrade a couple of times during the product life cycle.
#40
Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:12 PM
The software (TSX Pro, TPoint add-on, camera add-on) is included in the mount purchase. The subscription model basically boils down to $75/year after the first year for TheSkyX support and upgrades. If you choose not to renew the subscription the software is of course still licensed and will continue to work. New features are being added frequently but there's no requirement to "upgrade" to use the mount/software but the cost of renewal seems pretty reasonable to me given the constant development and responsive support.
Clear skies,
Bill
#41
Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:54 PM
#42
Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:00 PM
#43
Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:55 PM
The MX can *only* be driven by TheSkyX. There are many astronomy programs that use ASCOM and/or run on other devices and using ASCOM - these will not work with MX. That can be a limitation/issue for some.
Considering that the purchase price includes all the software needed and that it's compatible with Mac and Windows, I don't see why this would be an issue other than those mentioned about being tied to a computer.
David
#44
Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:56 PM
The MX can *only* be driven by TheSkyX. There are many astronomy programs that use ASCOM and/or run on other devices and using ASCOM - these will not work with MX. That can be a limitation/issue for some.
Considering that the purchase price includes all the software needed and that it's compatible with Mac and Windows, I don't see why this would be an issue other than those mentioned about being tied to a computer.
David
I am among those who selected TheSky6 as my primary telescope control software years ago but don't own a Bisque mount so I had to purchase it. It was a good investment. I have used quite a few ASCOM-compatible programs along with it, and have never found one that didn't work with TheSky6 and a TheSky-controlled telescope. It interfaces nicely with them all Unless there's a new defect in TheSkyX, the limitation claimed above isn't valid.
#45
Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:06 PM
Licensing issues aside, I think that would be a nice item.
#46
Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:27 PM
It interfaces nicely with them all Unless there's a new defect in TheSkyX, the limitation claimed above isn't valid.
The point was not about software, but about PMX hardware. The limitation could arise if someone wants to use a device using some other planetarium or any other application that uses ASCOM to talk to mounts. They can't do it unless its TheSkyX.
You are benefiting from the fact that your mount can be controlled by the application you chose. You are using ASCOM driver or software written to work with TheSky6 for your mount. My point is that is an advantage when it comes to mounts - being able to talk ASCOM.
#47
Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:22 PM
#48
Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:35 PM
#49
Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:34 PM
#50
Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:06 AM
The point was not about software, but about PMX hardware. The limitation could arise if someone wants to use a device using some other planetarium or any other application that uses ASCOM to talk to mounts. They can't do it unless its TheSkyX.
You are benefiting from the fact that your mount can be controlled by the application you chose. You are using ASCOM driver or software written to work with TheSky6 for your mount. My point is that is an advantage when it comes to mounts - being able to talk ASCOM.
If I believed that that my current software configuration wouldn't operate a Bisque mount then I would accept that you are more familiar with my software and its setup than I. I know of others using precisely the same software with a PME, though, so I decline to make that leap.