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Started by Rich (RLTYS) , Apr 09 2013 06:35 AM

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#101 Steve_M_M

Soyuz

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:34 PM

I think many of these are going to start showing up on Ebay as NOS.

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#102 Littlegreenman

Fly Me to the Moon

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:28 AM

i've looked two samples of the Park...wait a minute, I've looked through at least one 60mm and two or three 80mm. They are late examples of Japanese made refractors with associated mounts and accessories. Sometimes a 'later' version of a manufactured product means they improved on the weak areas, and sometimes it means they reduced quality to try to squeeze out more profit margin.

With the Parks it was a general overall improvement. I forget if the lenses had collimation screws, which I would want any scope I wanted to keep to have. Other than that, nice optics, and nice mounts. The mounts may look like a typical EQ mount, appropriate for the size of the scope. Well, I never liked the EQ 1, 2, & 3 mounts. Compared to say a Vixen Polaris, they are all wobbly and lack precision motions. But, within the class of mounts, the Parks EQ 1 for the 60 and EQ 2 or was it a 3 for the 80mm had some evolutionary improvements. They were sturdier, less backlash, less prone to vibrations that you typical vintage scope of the same size.

Now, value? Consider you could by a pretty good vintage scope, make that 5 vintage scopes for a fraction of the Parks price. But, looking only at functional value, setting aside any cache or collectible value of a vintage scope, I would value the Parks as slightly but definitely 'better" than you typical vintage refractor. I would compare them with 1990's Vixen, always good quality. But, in real life, they usually sell at a discount. Maybe some new-old-stock will start showing up for sale? If not, this post may increase the value. (I gotta stop doing this! :foreheadslap:

Or at least wait until I stock up on what I praise!).

Littlegreenman

* How can you tell if a mount is and EQ 1, 2, or 3? It's easy to tell between a 1 and a 3, but between a 1 and 2 or a 2 or a 3??

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#103 clamchip

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:30 AM

I haven't had a chance to scope out the Parks but its a late model Towa including the circle T trademark. Made for Parks with "Parks" painted on both sides of the tube. I hope it has hand picked lenses or something exciting like that. I would think Towa would hand pick lenses for Parks Optical wouldn't you? if I was taking nature photos for Nat geo I would make sure they are in focus!
It came with a Parks hybrid diagonal and a Parks 1.25" K12mm which is a nice feature. It may have come with 3 eyepieces since it has places for 3 in the Styrofoam, I only have one with it. Its missing many parts, and a few of the missing parts would make it difficult or impossible to use.
The cell has no collimation screws and the lens has the ring style spacer as far as I can tell.

Robert

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#104 Masvingo

Apollo

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:10 PM

1970's 'Topic' Astronomical telescope D=80mm F=1200mm

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#105 marcyc

Ranger 4

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:02 AM

Would love to buy it, but value my marriage more!

http://washingtondc....3759103952.html

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#106 starman876

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:32 AM

Oh wow

that was only $100 a couple of days ago. That will teach all of us in this area to email that guy at once. :tonofbricks:

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#107 starman876

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:33 AM

and if the person still gets a lot of emails it will be $300 a couple of days from now :lol:

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#108 Masvingo

Apollo

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:50 AM

Newtonian on Fullerscopes Mk III mount

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#109 skullpin

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

Newtonian on Fullerscopes Mk III mount

Interesting polar alignment. iOptron is boasting that their new ZEQ25 is an extraordinary innovation, though it seems to have already been done.

Keith

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#110 greju

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:05 PM

http://www.cloudynig...ct=78935&sor...

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#111 jimifanwing

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:57 PM

Don't see many of these:

http://kansascity.cr...3767025018.html

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#112 tim53

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:59 PM

About 6 times what it's worth without the mount.

-Tim.

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#113 jimifanwing

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:07 PM

Yea, I am not aware of the value, but it seemed a little steep.

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#114 CHASLX200

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:19 AM

That guy is in dream land wanting $2500. I can see maybe $650.

Chas

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#115 clintwhitman

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 06:57 AM

There seem to be dreamers everywhere I look this morning. LOL

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#116 amicus sidera

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:16 AM

http://www.cloudynig...ct=78935&sor...

Yup...

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#117 amicus sidera

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:21 AM

Don't see many of these:

http://kansascity.cr...3767025018.html

I've heard these combination Newt/Cass models had optics that could be, shall we say, somewhat less than perfect. Even with superb optics, though, $2500 is much too high a price.

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#118 Masvingo

Apollo

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:37 AM

And now a Mark IV Fullerscopes mount, sans ota!

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#119 amicus sidera

Skylab

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:12 AM

That is a substantial mounting, indeed! One can only hope that the Fullerscope OTA and this mount meet up soon, James...

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#120 Terra Nova

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:01 AM

Anyone seen the absurdly overpriced (a grand) Mayflower 4 1/4 inch reflector listed under refractors in the CN classified adds? Yup, we talk about quality Mayflower telescopes (refractors) here and it really brings the sharks out of the sea caves.