my new NGC7000 narrow band image
#1
Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:25 AM
This is just a start and I'll add to this thread as I get more data (hoping it stays clear long enough)
Imaged with the FSQ85 at f/5.3 using the ST8300M, 20 minute sub exposures.
Just the basics here as far as processing. Calibration, RGB combine, DDP stretch, color curve smoothing in MaxImDL pro. Bob Franke color treatment in CS5. Very slight DCNR and edge preserving smooth then resizing and TIFF to JPEG conversion done with PSP. Larger version here. if you click the image on that site it gets you a much larger version.
woohoo!
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:41 AM
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:52 AM
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:58 AM
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:04 AM
#6
Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:13 AM
-Bill
#7
Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:33 AM
stay tuned I hope it'll just get better from here
#8
Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:58 AM
I think if Tak addressed the issues - folks would stop removing the CAA and/or in some cases going to a different focuser entirely. The complaint is nothing new.
If I used a collet and could just rotate the CCD that way it would be a non-issue but I am 'all threaded' and IMO the issues I've had are just something I would call sub-standard to the optics and tube and focuser - mine seems no problem, no shift that bothers me anyway.
I've not found the optics / focus position anywhere near as temperature sensitive as others have (it's mentioned a lot on the yahoo group along with moto-focus)and no need whatsoever for a motorized focus. I think adding moto-focus could introduce more difficulty so I'm averse to it as I don't need it and seems like wasted money for my particular use.
I do nothing to refocus between filters and find the spot sizes I get very acceptable - and as you see they process together very well. Give credit here to Astrodon too - Don's filters are fantastic and in the end worth every penny. At least for me I don't feel there is any objectionable aspect ratio or blooming.
I doo see what appear to be tiny crosshairs on brighter stars, but again the lack of halo (so far - I've not gone after that Alnitak area!) and that the effect is minimal I feel may be another outstanding feature of the optics. I am curious about this though and will compare to my TEC when I go for the Pelican half of this area.
Hope that helps, and food for though for anyone else wondering about these Tak 'quads'. If any of it seems nit picking well, I paid the price of admission.
#9
Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:01 PM
I'm gonna be really hard on you.. I'm sure you can take it..
First the good, sharpness, detail, colors.. all are splendid..
Now for the bad: in the lower midtones there appears quite some color noise.. a bit as if the image shows freckles. It's especially apparent in the area below the wall and in the lower and mid left.
The noise appears to be mostly in the reds. So I assume that's from the SII data. SII is usually very weak and needs to be stretched much further. I guess that if you want to improve the image with more integration time you'd need to focus first on some more SII.
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure you'll nail this one and it will be stunning.
Wouter.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:11 PM
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:16 PM
#12
Posted 10 July 2013 - 05:03 PM
Adam, thanks! - it was from my backyard here in the white zone, not all images well in NB but it's a great antidote to LP for those that do. I've found the narrowest OIII and SII the better.
Warren, thanks always for the encouragement. Are the skies letting up at all out your way yet or soon?
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 05:25 PM
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:20 PM
Steve
#16
Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:32 PM
I just took a dozen one-shot color light subs (just uploaded in another post) for part of NGC7000 with a 175 mm apo and will try it with a wider field scope.
#17
Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:39 PM
Hi jim,
I'm gonna be really hard on you.. I'm sure you can take it..
First the good, sharpness, detail, colors.. all are splendid..
Now for the bad: in the lower midtones there appears quite some color noise.. a bit as if the image shows freckles. It's especially apparent in the area below the wall and in the lower and mid left.
The noise appears to be mostly in the reds. So I assume that's from the SII data. SII is usually very weak and needs to be stretched much further. I guess that if you want to improve the image with more integration time you'd need to focus first on some more SII.
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure you'll nail this one and it will be stunning.
Wouter.
Wouter, I just took some single light sub narrowband images of the Gulf region in the NA nebula (H-alpha, O3, S2, 30 min each) and indeed O3 and S2 are far weaker than the H-alpha (especially O3)!
#18
Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:46 PM
Warren, thanks always for the encouragement. Are the skies letting up at all out your way yet or soon?
Keeping my fingers crossed as the next 3 nights (starting tomorrow) are supposed to be clear to partly cloudy. Since no rain is in the forecast at least my stuff will be set up!
#19
Posted 11 July 2013 - 01:16 AM
-If all goes well tonight I should be able to double the exposure time on all channels tonight. My main concern is to wake up for the meridian flip at ~3Am as I'm a bit punchy after this run of clear skies and a bit sleep deprived.
that folks is a complaint I am so blessed to finally make!
Warren I'll keep fingers crossed for you there!
Josh I am looking forward to your results after that great hypertune you did !
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:10 AM
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:16 AM
#23
Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:43 AM
Terry - look up about 15 responses from here (#5963949 - 07/10/13 08:58 AM ), I made a long response to your question there. Interesting about the point sources and I'm uncertain why/how that is as I followed identical steps on processing both. It is apparent in the full size TIFF I convert from as well.
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:01 AM
#25
Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:37 AM
Wouter.